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JustSomeOldGuy wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 4:09 pm

BBYC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 1:20 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 2:59 pm sounds like fraud or theft by deception to me.....

What did they steal? The funds were returned to the credit card holders.

Services had already been rendered or goods transferred.
Those funds no longer belonged to the credit card holders. I don't see it as any different from Intuit keeping the funds for themselves, or giving them to some random third party.
Of course IANAL, just a simple redneck operating on his sense of right and wrong.

So, hypothetical situation. YOU work for Company X, and they pay by direct deposit into your account with Bank Y. Bank Y is a fully owned subsidiary of the George Soros conglomerate. The conglomerate is apprised of a social media post of you attending the NRA Convention, so they start routing your employer's payroll transfers to your account, back to your employer. Just curious, would you
A) be OK with that, "because they aren't stealing", or
B) be speed-dialing your attorney and the law enforcement entity of your choice?

MechAg94 wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 2:38 pm

BBYC wrote: Tue May 29, 2018 1:20 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 2:59 pm sounds like fraud or theft by deception to me.....

What did they steal? The funds were returned to the credit card holders.

I guess it is arguing over definitions. Because of Intuit's actions, Gunsite has lost money. They lost the revenue from the purchases they did not have contact information for. They also lost man hours due to all their people that had to spend time contacting customers to redo the credit card charges with a new service. Also, some people didn't want to reauthorize payments until they saw their CC statement showing the credit. I don't know if that is theft, but I think it is actionable.

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 6:50 pm Once somebody sues Intuit for defrauding them, that crap will stop. Fraud ....or theft.... would be easy enough to prove

OldCurlyWolf wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 6:00 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 6:50 pm Once somebody sues Intuit for defrauding them, that crap will stop. Fraud ....or theft.... would be easy enough to prove

Fraud is always a felony. Theft of this magnitude is also a felony. Wouldn't it be lovely to watch their CEO hauled out of their headquarters in cuffs?

OldCurlyWolf wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 6:00 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 6:50 pm Once somebody sues Intuit for defrauding them, that crap will stop. Fraud ....or theft.... would be easy enough to prove

Fraud is always a felony. Theft of this magnitude is also a felony. Wouldn't it be lovely to watch their CEO hauled out of their headquarters in cuffs?

Misfit Child wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 7:51 pm

OldCurlyWolf wrote: Wed May 30, 2018 6:00 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 6:50 pm Once somebody sues Intuit for defrauding them, that crap will stop. Fraud ....or theft.... would be easy enough to prove

Fraud is always a felony. Theft of this magnitude is also a felony. Wouldn't it be lovely to watch their CEO hauled out of their headquarters in cuffs?

Most politicians raise a lot more campaign money than that. Can we drag them out of their offices in handcuffs if they don't keep their campaign promises?