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Re: What would you do?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:03 am
by phddan
elwood blooz wrote:There was bank robbed this past week in the Houston area, what & how would you do if you were there? Details: Man walks up to the teller & says this is a hold up & it's not a joke, give me your money. Never shows a weapon according to the media. What would you do? What can you do legally if your carrying at the time?

Looking forward to your answers

It all depends on where I am located in relation to perp.
Remember the bank robber that just started shooting for no good reason?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:16 am
by BrassMonkey
The question then arises of, would you use your gun to protect a stranger? Sorry, couldn't resist...

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:41 am
by mcub
I would leave it between BG and the bank
If I wanted to do LEO work, I'd went into that profession.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:53 am
by BrassMonkey
+ 1
mcub wrote:I would leave it between BG and the bank
If I wanted to do LEO work, I'd went into that profession.

Re: What would you do?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:04 pm
by Hoppes
elwood blooz wrote:There was bank robbed this past week in the Houston area, what & how would you do if you were there? Details: Man walks up to the teller & says this is a hold up & it's not a joke, give me your money. Never shows a weapon according to the media. What would you do? What can you do legally if your carrying at the time?

Looking forward to your answers
Based upon the limited information provided, I don't think that deadly force is justified. You don't see a weapon right? I have no legal obligation to protect no one but me with my weapon, and then, only when faced with deadly force. I would not draw my weapon unless my life is directly endangered with deadly force. Deadly force will be measured by different factors with each individual and case. There is insufficient information for me to come to a planned conclusion.

Best try to discreetly leave if you can and let this guy do what he is doing. Should you call the police if you get out safely? Sure.

Hoppes

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:22 pm
by Jungle Work
I'll be a good witness unless he tries to take my money. I don't mind shooting someone legally in the back. In fact if they are armed, I prefer it.

Jungle Work

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:08 am
by phddan
elwood blooz wrote:
There was bank robbed this past week in the Houston area, what & how would you do if you were there? Details: Man walks up to the teller & says this is a hold up & it's not a joke, give me your money. Never shows a weapon according to the media. What would you do? What can you do legally if your carrying at the time?

Looking forward to your answers


Dan wrote:
It all depends on where I am located in relation to perp.
Remember the bank robber that just started shooting for no good reason?



BrassMonkey wrote:
The question then arises of, would you use your gun to protect a stranger? Sorry, couldn't resist..



I would use a gun to protect a stranger without a doubt, IF in a situation that I think it is appropriate and necessary.
In this example, a gun is not warranted at this precise time, but that doesn't mean I don't have the means necessary to stop the robbery, if I am close enough and know what is going on.
This whole scenario is to vague to tell exactly what anybody would/could do. But, just because you have a gun, doesn't mean that is all you can use.

Dan

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:56 am
by HankB
I don't see a weapon, so all he's done is make a vebal demand for money with either an expressed or implied verbal threat.

I'm not going to anoint myself as an unpaid bank guard over that.

I'd simply try to unobtrusively put some distance/cover between myself and the bad guy - I'd be prepared to use my sidearm, but so long as the bad guy didn't pull and start waving his own gun around, I wouldn't jump in.

It would seem that most of the posters here are pretty much on the same page . . .

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:10 am
by LedJedi
not really enough info. Would be hard for me to shoot an unarmed man (or woman).

I would probably back off given the limited info in that scenario and wait for a better assessment of the situation.

If he had a gun and was waving around, I would certainly wait for a time he wasn't paying attention to me and try to find a bit of cover. If the opportunity arose I would eliminate the immediate threat.

Too many people in this country wait for others to protect them or handle the situation. To roll over and just let him do what he's going to do is tantamount to a breach of my personal duty as a citizen to preserve liberty in this country and bordering on cowardice IMO. I'm not a LEO but I am a citizen and I will not abide a direct threat to myself or my fellow citizens.

See: http://www.jim.com/cowards.htm

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:33 pm
by lanternlad
A CHL license does not make one a member of the police department. I'm not a Jedi or some other kind of hero.

But if he pulls, I pull - and start shooting. Period.

If he doesn't pull or in any other way act violently, then I don't pull.

But it's funny, isn't it. One doesn't need to use a gun to rob a bank nowadays, just a slip of paper...

Shows what happens when you follow the trend of "just give them what they want".

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:37 pm
by BrassMonkey
I don't shoot until he makes a move towards me or my son.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:53 pm
by elwood blooz
lanternlad wrote: One doesn't need to use a gun to rob a bank nowadays, just a slip of paper...
and even just say give me your money & not give a note or brandish a weapon.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:48 am
by TX Rancher
Ask him for a loan...maybe I could get a better rate from him then what the bank will give me :lol:

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:24 am
by Jason73
I wouldnt do anything unless threatened directly.

I got my CHL so I would have the ability to protect my family and my property regardless of where I go.

I did not get it because I wanted to become a public servant charged with defending the sheeple who choose to walk around society unarmed.

Thats what the police are for... ;-)