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Here is an old quote by Tomas Borge, Interior Minister of Nicaragua during the Reagan administration, IIRC.

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico. One day, tomorrow, or five years, or fifteen years from now we are going to take five to ten million Mexicans and they are going to have one thing on their mind - cross the border, go into Dallas, go into El Paso, go into Houston, go into New Mexico, go into San Diego and each one has embedded in his mind the killing of ten Americans."

And J. Edgar Hover said many years ago, "You can trust the communists - to do exactly as they say."

Cooper and Jones are floating the idea Trump is the one paying for the invasion. http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/10/ ... ssion=true

I believe the best way to stop illegal immigration is to heavily fine any employer hiring an illegal, and I mean a heavy fine. Also, fine anyone renting to an illegal. No jobs or housing and they will remain where they are from. This could also be a Federal Law to bypass those states like California and New Mexico.

mojo84 wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:41 am I know what would work but it's not politically correct to say and would probably get me flamed and scolded by the mods. Therefore, I will not share those thoughts here.

Me too...

DEB wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:20 pm I believe the best way to stop illegal immigration is to heavily fine any employer hiring an illegal, and I mean a heavy fine. Also, fine anyone renting to an illegal. No jobs or housing and they will remain where they are from. This could also be a Federal Law to bypass those states like California and New Mexico.

Don’t kid yourself. TX is just as bad in some areas.

Lay mines and double barbed wires. Like the rest of the world do. Do you think the border between NK is SK is protected with a low ranch fence? Or any other country for that matter.

DEB wrote: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:20 pm I believe the best way to stop illegal immigration is to heavily fine any employer hiring an illegal, and I mean a heavy fine. Also, fine anyone renting to an illegal. No jobs or housing and they will remain where they are from. This could also be a Federal Law to bypass those states like California and New Mexico.

Knowingly. OK.

The devil is in the proving.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960)

To my way of thinking, that says it all.

How about an emergency executive order cutting military base total populace by 10 percent. Offer reassignment to the space force bases to be located in southern us states, coincidentally very near the Mexican border. Do not give federsl government contracts to businesses located or headquartered in sanctuary cities or states, whichever is necessary to accomplish the savings necessary to reimburse the states that follow proper citizen security enforcement. Maybe it should be called the citizens security enforcement act, executive order, etcetera.

Long time ago some students were protesting ROTC at their University.

If I remember the national guard was called in to protect the campus building from damage by the protestors. It was on high ground with a big commons below right in the center of campus.

The large group of protesters were chanting carrying banners heading toward the line of armed national guard soldiers. Maybe some in the back threw stones. Tear gas was fired. The national guard was way out numbered.

Someone said “fire”. A few moments later 4 students were dead. Many were just walking to class and were not part of the protest.

Crosby Stills Nash and Young wrote a song Four Dead in Ohio. It reached number one. It became the rallying cry against the war in Viet Nam. President Nixon was blamed and he had nothing to do with it.

This has to be handled with great care and with out violence, or I see a repeat.

If not, trust me the first person to die will be a mom holding a baby and it will all be recorded by future Pullitizer Prize winners. The image of a young college girl weeping at the body of her dead friend at Kent State did win the Pulitzer Prize.

http://100photos.time.com/photos/john-p ... -shootings

Sonic sound wall, low output microwave crowd control vehicle. Why did taxpayers fund research and development of these techs if they were not really going to be used? Does national political correctness mean we have to ask Invaders pretty please not to?

I took an oath many years ago... if called upon I will defend.

-surfer

This has to be handled with great care and with out violence, or I see a repeat.

That's going to be tough... thousands rushing the border, how do you stop them with out a wall and without force? Even a human chain will be rushed- they have no regard for laws, so why would they care about right or wrong? They are after their entitlement.

I fear there is no good way to handle this. My hope is that the blisters and sore feet win and they eventually give up. I'd be fine with force, to whatever extent needed to prevent entry. The crowds would stop trying to get in if there were more than a traffic ticket's worth of risk, that they will skip out on, anyway.

We need to do something, seems like I heard there was another group starting to march from Venezuela.. or Guatemala.