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Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:49 am
by LSUTiger
been hearing this for years but the 5.56 and the m4/m16 are going to be in service longer than we are
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:39 am
by jason812
Beiruty wrote: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:52 am
I read they are running after 6.5mm in AR10 frame. With 110gr Armor piercing projectile to defeat ceramic and coated light steel armor.
That wouldn't be saving weight which is always mentioned when these types of things come up. But the people in procurement sometimes do things that do not make sense. The way Sig has been getting contracts lately, makes me wonder who is getting fat envelopes of cash.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:20 am
by Liberty
LSUTiger wrote: Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:49 am
been hearing this for years but the 5.56 and the m4/m16 are going to be in service longer than we are
It's not so much that the 5.56 round is obsolete, but that the one gun/round suits all purposes that is outdated. Choices are good.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:57 pm
by Abraham
There's no perfect boat that'll do everything, no rifle, no motorcycle, no...but given us human beans seek out perfection, the 6mm whether the newest fad (6.5 Creedmore or Grendal or one of the other ones) will appeal to some and not others....having fired about a billion rounds of .308 in the M-14 configuration, I like lighter calibers.
5.56 works for me.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:43 am
by gtolbert09
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-army-to-r ... ult-rifles
A new Army assault rifle will tear through any body armor with the pressure of a battle tank, strike from unprecedented ranges, and withstand the rigors of weather, terrain and soldier use, Army Chief of Staff. Gen. Mark Milley told The Military Times.
The new 6.8mm rifles, which are expected to be in use by 2022, will offer major improvements in capabilities over the decades-old M16 and M4 weapons, the Army claims.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:03 am
by philip964
So the semiautomatic rifle I didn't buy and don't own is now obsolete? Will I now have to not buy and not own a new and more expensive semiautomatic rifle? Geez.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:01 am
by dlh
gtolbert09 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:43 am
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-army-to-r ... ult-rifles
A new Army assault rifle will tear through any body armor with the pressure of a battle tank, strike from unprecedented ranges, and withstand the rigors of weather, terrain and soldier use, Army Chief of Staff. Gen. Mark Milley told The Military Times.
The new 6.8mm rifles, which are expected to be in use by 2022, will offer major improvements in capabilities over the decades-old M16 and M4 weapons, the Army claims.
When I read that article I thought this sounds too good to be true...so it probably isn't.
I will reserve judgment until the rifle actually comes out and is tested.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:24 am
by LeonCarr
I honestly don't see how a 6.8 anything can do the things they are claiming.
They could just issue Mk262 to everybody and save about a bajillion dollars of taxpayer money. It would increase the effectiveness of the M16/M4/M249 etc. Since the GWOT pretty much every bad guy I have seen in footage from the sandbox has been unarmored.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:02 pm
by oljames3
howdy wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:30 pm
Rifles do kill a percentage of the enemy but the vast majority are killed by artillery, Naval gun fire and aerial bombardment. Ask the Iraqis in the first Gulf War what they feared.
Field Artillery - King of Battle.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:52 am
by Bitter Clinger
gtolbert09 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:43 am
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-army-to-r ... ult-rifles
A new Army assault rifle will tear through any body armor with the pressure of a battle tank, strike from unprecedented ranges, and withstand the rigors of weather, terrain and soldier use, Army Chief of Staff. Gen. Mark Milley told The Military Times.
The new 6.8mm rifles, which are expected to be in use by 2022, will offer major improvements in capabilities over the decades-old M16 and M4 weapons, the Army claims.
Seems like a dog whistle to the gun grabbers. This rifle too dangerous for law abiding civilians.
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:29 am
by TreyHouston
Bitter Clinger wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:52 am
gtolbert09 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:43 am
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-army-to-r ... ult-rifles
A new Army assault rifle will tear through any body armor with the pressure of a battle tank, strike from unprecedented ranges, and withstand the rigors of weather, terrain and soldier use, Army Chief of Staff. Gen. Mark Milley told The Military Times.
The new 6.8mm rifles, which are expected to be in use by 2022, will offer major improvements in capabilities over the decades-old M16 and M4 weapons, the Army claims.
Seems like a dog whistle to the gun grabbers. This rifle too dangerous for law abiding civilians.
Then the 5.56 is perfectly safe!
Re: NEW Military 6.8mm rifle
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:31 pm
by Jago668
Noggin wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:20 pm
All this to get back close to a caliber that was available in the early 50's the .280
They should have chosen it over the .308 for sure.