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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:39 am
by GeoJAP
double post......

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:13 pm
by propellerhead
AndyC wrote:I'm buying reloading equipment - it's surprising how expensive it is to buy all the dies, powder-measure, press, etc, when one has to start all over again from scratch.
It's almost like taking a loss on that big SUV to buy a small Honda Civic due to gas prices.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:36 pm
by O6nop
Saulnier wrote:Anyone ever thought about doing a Reloading Co-op of some kind.

Several members, friends get together and load 9mm on this day and then maybe a month or two later get together an load 40 S&W.

Everyone saves brass. Meaning that everyone in the Co-Op should save all their spent brass for reloading.

Cost of primers, powder, bullets spilt between members that need that particular caliber.

Maybe even spliting the cost of the equipment if needed?

Just thinking outloud.


Saulnier
On top of that, I save and pick up all brass at the range, regardless if I have that caliber to load, then I throw it in the tumbler with everything else. I would trade it for brass I do load or for any other gun or reloading related items.
I don't (at this time) reload 9mm but I shoot it, and I find .380 and .40S&W all the time, I don't shoot that. I do load .38/.357, 45acp, 45LC, .223 and 6.5x55 Swede. I may be adding more as I go.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:56 pm
by Venus Pax
AndyC wrote:I'm buying reloading equipment - it's surprising how expensive it is to buy all the dies, powder-measure, press, etc, when one has to start all over again from scratch.
I spent about $200 up front, then slowly added what I needed. I'm still working at it.

The Lee Anniversary Kit is inexpensive at $89, and this includes your manual.

It does not come with the following items, so you could purchase a little each paycheck if you needed to:
loading blocks (immediately necessary) $4 each.
dies (immediately necessary) $30ish.
data book (dollar store/wal-mart)
labels (office store)
pens (around the house)


tumbler $45
calipers $15

Then, you need your components: brass (free at the range), bullets (most expensive), primers, and powder.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:59 pm
by Liberty
GeoJAP wrote:I just bought 4,250 rounds in the last month or so of the three calibers that I shoot most, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, and .40 S&W. I have seen ammo prices inflate greatly or supplies disappear all together recently. No matter what happens in the next few months, I still wanted to have enough range supply for the next 5 to 10 years and I believe ammo will still continue to appreciate after the new year, well into the future.

Basically, the market forces that are putting pressure on ammo prices are only going to increase in severity in the forseeable future, not lessen. These forces would be increased demand for raw materials (copper, etc.) from developing countries (China, etc.), the depreciating Dollar, as well as demand for ammo from global hot spots.
Maybe when the war is over the pressure on the prices will decrease.

Just wondering out loud.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:48 pm
by mcub
Liberty wrote:Maybe when the war is over the pressure on the prices will decrease.

Just wondering out loud.
Amazingly, the war is not the pressure point; it's the demand for Copper and Zinc that is pushing up the cost. Have you tried buying wire or copper pipe lately??

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:22 pm
by GeoJAP
Liberty wrote:
GeoJAP wrote:I just bought 4,250 rounds in the last month or so of the three calibers that I shoot most, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, and .40 S&W. I have seen ammo prices inflate greatly or supplies disappear all together recently. No matter what happens in the next few months, I still wanted to have enough range supply for the next 5 to 10 years and I believe ammo will still continue to appreciate after the new year, well into the future.

Basically, the market forces that are putting pressure on ammo prices are only going to increase in severity in the forseeable future, not lessen. These forces would be increased demand for raw materials (copper, etc.) from developing countries (China, etc.), the depreciating Dollar, as well as demand for ammo from global hot spots.
Maybe when the war is over the pressure on the prices will decrease.

Just wondering out loud.
Another thing that I forgot to add, is that in the next administration the president could ban all importation of ammo with an executive order (or just a memo to the BATFE who controls the imports). This is just a calculated guess on my part, but I do think that it is a hypothesis with some amount of merit. Many anti's realize that it is more effective to go after the ammo supply than the firearms themselves.

I have had a Curio and Relic license for years, so surplus ammo is the fuel to make use of my collection at the range. If surplus imports were banned, I'd be high and dry for the most part. There has been some talk that the ATF has already banned surplus imports (without much corroborating evidence), over on the High Road.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:45 pm
by angrybeavis
Yep, about 2000 rounds of .38spl, 9mm, 22LR over the last 2 months. I already had a stock pile of 303, 7.62 and 35 Remington.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:18 pm
by lawrnk
I intend to try reloading from now on

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:31 pm
by lrb111
angrybeavis wrote:Yep, about 2000 rounds of .38spl, 9mm, 22LR over the last 2 months. I already had a stock pile of 303, 7.62 and 35 Remington.
:!: ding, I just figured out I can't reload .22lr, and was forgetting about it.
Better make a few runs on it. :shock:

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:06 pm
by Tim the Teacher
Bought another 400 rounds of .40 today. I now have 1200 rounds of .40 and 1100 rounds of 9mm. I've got to work on purchasing the .357/38 special next week. The salesman at Walmart says they have been notified that the price increase will be August 28th.

I will be actively looking at the reloading forum and maybe visiting some of you in the DFW area to see your setup's before purchasing equipment and supplies.

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:28 am
by Stupid
Maybe I should start stocking up reload machines. hmmm