Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:32 pm
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Try something else....Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:29 pm
That's not completely true. If you mount the magnet someplace where the handgun is visible, that's not legal in Texas. However, if you mount the magnet under your seat, that would be concealed and legal. If you mount a magnet inside your armrest storage, that would be concealed and legal. There's nothing illegal about the magnets as long as the handgun isn't visible. I don't like the magnets for other reasons, but that's a personal choice.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:17 pm
So what's the point of having a magnet if your going to put it under your seat or armrest storage? You might as well conceal it in a peanut butter & jelly sandwich.Grumpy1993 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:29 pmThat's not completely true. If you mount the magnet someplace where the handgun is visible, that's not legal in Texas. However, if you mount the magnet under your seat, that would be concealed and legal. If you mount a magnet inside your armrest storage, that would be concealed and legal. There's nothing illegal about the magnets as long as the handgun isn't visible. I don't like the magnets for other reasons, but that's a personal choice.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:21 pm
Unnecessary administrative handling of the pistol I carry every day is one of my biggest worries. Any method of stowing my pistol that involves unholstering is a non-starter for me. Another worry is protecting the trigger from negligent access. Any method of stowing my pistol in my vehicle that allows me easy access to the trigger during stowing or while retrieving the pistol is also a non-starter for me. Using a magnet as a "holster" both requires unnecessary administrative handling and leaves the trigger exposed.
My S&W M&P M2.0, which I usually carry openly, lives in its Safariland 7TS ALS holster. It only comes out for cleaning, practice, training, or defense. Safariland's Quick Locking System (QLS) makes this easy. I carry it on my waist in my Grand Caravan, but SWMBO says I cannot scratch her Altima's leather seats. When driving her car, I remove the holstered pistol from my belt and stow it in a manner that provides sufficient security, ease of access, and concealment for me.
Your mileage will vary.
My S&W M&P M2.0, which I usually carry openly, lives in its Safariland 7TS ALS holster. It only comes out for cleaning, practice, training, or defense. Safariland's Quick Locking System (QLS) makes this easy. I carry it on my waist in my Grand Caravan, but SWMBO says I cannot scratch her Altima's leather seats. When driving her car, I remove the holstered pistol from my belt and stow it in a manner that provides sufficient security, ease of access, and concealment for me.
Your mileage will vary.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:34 pm
That’s the tricky confusion between where and how I can conceal. I’m truly only considering glove compartment when I need to unholster and that’s it.Grumpy1993 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:29 pmThat's not completely true. If you mount the magnet someplace where the handgun is visible, that's not legal in Texas. However, if you mount the magnet under your seat, that would be concealed and legal. If you mount a magnet inside your armrest storage, that would be concealed and legal. There's nothing illegal about the magnets as long as the handgun isn't visible. I don't like the magnets for other reasons, but that's a personal choice.
Thanks for your reply
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:52 pm
I’ll search about this holster. I purchased Alien Gear 4.0 IWB but it’s not so comfortable as I thought.oljames3 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:21 pm Unnecessary administrative handling of the pistol I carry every day is one of my biggest worries. Any method of stowing my pistol that involves unholstering is a non-starter for me. Another worry is protecting the trigger from negligent access. Any method of stowing my pistol in my vehicle that allows me easy access to the trigger during stowing or while retrieving the pistol is also a non-starter for me. Using a magnet as a "holster" both requires unnecessary administrative handling and leaves the trigger exposed.
My S&W M&P M2.0, which I usually carry openly, lives in its Safariland 7TS ALS holster. It only comes out for cleaning, practice, training, or defense. Safariland's Quick Locking System (QLS) makes this easy. I carry it on my waist in my Grand Caravan, but SWMBO says I cannot scratch her Altima's leather seats. When driving her car, I remove the holstered pistol from my belt and stow it in a manner that provides sufficient security, ease of access, and concealment for me.
Your mileage will vary.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:45 am
You didn't ask but this is worth thinking about. My biggest problem with there magnets is it you're in an accident that involves a decent impact then your pistol is going to become a projectile in your vehicle.
Your best option for under dash mounting will be to rig up a holster with retention. But, in the event of a serious impact your holster with retained pistol might still go flying through the car. Interior panels, especially if they're old, aren't meant to retain loads. Food for thought.
TC
Your best option for under dash mounting will be to rig up a holster with retention. But, in the event of a serious impact your holster with retained pistol might still go flying through the car. Interior panels, especially if they're old, aren't meant to retain loads. Food for thought.
TC
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:59 am
ConcealThis wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:45 am You didn't ask but this is worth thinking about. My biggest problem with there magnets is it you're in an accident that involves a decent impact then your pistol is going to become a projectile in your vehicle.
Your best option for under dash mounting will be to rig up a holster with retention. But, in the event of a serious impact your holster with retained pistol might still go flying through the car. Interior panels, especially if they're old, aren't meant to retain loads. Food for thought.
TC
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:07 pm
IDK. I said I don't like the magnets, but that doesn't make them illegal.Skooter wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:17 pmSo what's the point of having a magnet if your going to put it under your seat or armrest storage? You might as well conceal it in a peanut butter & jelly sandwich.Grumpy1993 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:29 pmThat's not completely true. If you mount the magnet someplace where the handgun is visible, that's not legal in Texas. However, if you mount the magnet under your seat, that would be concealed and legal. If you mount a magnet inside your armrest storage, that would be concealed and legal. There's nothing illegal about the magnets as long as the handgun isn't visible. I don't like the magnets for other reasons, but that's a personal choice.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:18 pm
That's not completely true. If you mount the magnet someplace where the handgun is visible, that's not legal in Texas. However, if you mount the magnet under your seat, that would be concealed and legal. If you mount a magnet inside your armrest storage, that would be concealed and legal. There's nothing illegal about the magnets as long as the handgun isn't visible. I don't like the magnets for other reasons, but that's a personal choice.Grumpy1993 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:07 pm [quote=Skooter post_id=<a href="tel:1245797">1245797</a> time=<a href="tel:1554751036">1554751036</a> user_id=7366]
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Forget about the magnets, they are not legal.
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So what's the point of having a magnet if your going to put it under your seat or armrest storage? You might as well conceal it in a peanut butter & jelly sandwich.
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IDK. I said I don't like the magnets, but that doesn't make them illegal.
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They are illegal the way the OP was asking to use them. Why confuse the issue?
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:48 pm
ConcealThis wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:45 am You didn't ask but this is worth thinking about. My biggest problem with there magnets is it you're in an accident that involves a decent impact then your pistol is going to become a projectile in your vehicle.
Your best option for under dash mounting will be to rig up a holster with retention. But, in the event of a serious impact your holster with retained pistol might still go flying through the car. Interior panels, especially if they're old, aren't meant to retain loads. Food for thought.
TC
It could go flying in a wreck, same as anything else in the cabin. Groceries, a child's toys, a travel mug or water bottle in a cup holder, etc. At least the trigger of the flying gun will be covered if you use a good holster, unlike the magnet mounts.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:59 am
Easily solved. Present your LTC to the officer with your DL as soon as he/she walks up and tell them you are armed and where the gun is.Mel wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:44 pm Let's play "Devil's Advocate". What if you have the piece on a magnet below the dash, you are stopped by LEO and asked to get out of the vehicle. Are you going to move the weapon to your holster while the officer is watching? Are you going to leave it where it will be in plain sight once you get out?
Try to think of all possible scenarios.
As long as you are in the vehicle with the gun it does not have to be concealed, we are an open carry state. You do need to think however about having a lockbox of some sort securely affixed to the vehicle if you're going to be forced to leave the vehicle and the gun therein so you can go into posted locations such as the PO.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:01 am
Secure the holster with a metal plate on the backside of the panel with screws or rivets attaching it.ConcealThis wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:45 am You didn't ask but this is worth thinking about. My biggest problem with there magnets is it you're in an accident that involves a decent impact then your pistol is going to become a projectile in your vehicle.
Your best option for under dash mounting will be to rig up a holster with retention. But, in the event of a serious impact your holster with retained pistol might still go flying through the car. Interior panels, especially if they're old, aren't meant to retain loads. Food for thought.
TC
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:13 am
This is incorrect. If openly carrying, it must be in a belt or shoulder holster. Otherwise you must conceal it, even in a vehicle.WildRose wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:59 amEasily solved. Present your LTC to the officer with your DL as soon as he/she walks up and tell them you are armed and where the gun is.Mel wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:44 pm Let's play "Devil's Advocate". What if you have the piece on a magnet below the dash, you are stopped by LEO and asked to get out of the vehicle. Are you going to move the weapon to your holster while the officer is watching? Are you going to leave it where it will be in plain sight once you get out?
Try to think of all possible scenarios.
As long as you are in the vehicle with the gun it does not have to be concealed, we are an open carry state. You do need to think however about having a lockbox of some sort securely affixed to the vehicle if you're going to be forced to leave the vehicle and the gun therein so you can go into posted locations such as the PO.
Re: New CHL Holder + Vehicle carry questions
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:39 am
I think Keith B has hit it right on the nose. The shoulder holster, to me is the best method of carrying while in a vehicle on long drives. If desired and with the proper shoulder holster, one can also remove the shoulder holster without touching the weapon and place this ensemble within a covered position inside of your vehicle. Many methods out there nowadays,it isn't like it was when CHL was first passed in Texas. One doesn't have to carry on the hip and those of us who have extra girth, have more options as well. Carry always and enjoy learning the methods available. Soon you too will have a drawer full of holsters, LOL.Keith B wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:13 amThis is incorrect. If openly carrying, it must be in a belt or shoulder holster. Otherwise you must conceal it, even in a vehicle.WildRose wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:59 amEasily solved. Present your LTC to the officer with your DL as soon as he/she walks up and tell them you are armed and where the gun is.Mel wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:44 pm Let's play "Devil's Advocate". What if you have the piece on a magnet below the dash, you are stopped by LEO and asked to get out of the vehicle. Are you going to move the weapon to your holster while the officer is watching? Are you going to leave it where it will be in plain sight once you get out?
Try to think of all possible scenarios.
As long as you are in the vehicle with the gun it does not have to be concealed, we are an open carry state. You do need to think however about having a lockbox of some sort securely affixed to the vehicle if you're going to be forced to leave the vehicle and the gun therein so you can go into posted locations such as the PO.
