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We all know what will happen if we break the rules.

We also have reead on these boards the old "Better judged by 12 than carried by 6" stuff.

I know a concerned individual (CI) who works with a really strange individual (SI). The SI will probably lose his job due to poor performance. The CI is seriously concerned what the SI will do and will do what he needs to do to protect himself. The CI has his CHL and is aware that his employer's written policy is not 30.06. He has not received verbal notice.

We all must do what we need to do to protect ourselves and no one here on this board will advocate doing anything illegal. There is a difference between doing something that violates policy and doing something illegal. Violating policy to ensure that you survive if you feel your life is in danger is a decision you must make.

I am not the concerned individual in the above paragraph. Honest.

Anygun

buda222 wrote:I will probably not carry inside - unless I get to a point where I don't care about my job.

I will leave it locked up in the car. I was never really worried about leaving it in the car even if they do prohibit it because:

• a.) they will never know anyway unless they searched my car
  b.) I would quit on principle immediately if they ever tried to search my car. The job isn't THAT good and very few jobs are.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Just remember that even though you are doing nothing illegal, you DO risk getting canned if you are found out. But as you correctly surmise, the chances of this are very low.

DO NOT PUT ANY STOCK IN STATEMENTS THAT YOUR CHL CONVEYS ANY SORT OF "AUTHORIZATION" TO CARRY IN THE EYES OF YOUR EMPLOYER.

As far as state law is concerned, yes. But your employer has his own definition of "authorized", and your CHL is definitely not it.

anygunanywhere wrote:I know a concerned individual (CI) who works with a really strange individual (SI). The SI will probably lose his job due to poor performance. The CI is seriously concerned what the SI will do ...

The CI could arrange some vacation or "get sick." When fired people go postal, it's usually with a couple of days of being fired.

- Jim

frankie_the_yankee wrote:DO NOT PUT ANY STOCK IN STATEMENTS THAT YOUR CHL CONVEYS ANY SORT OF "AUTHORIZATION" TO CARRY IN THE EYES OF YOUR EMPLOYER.

As far as state law is concerned, yes. But your employer has his own definition of "authorized", and your CHL is definitely not it.

Yep, that is true, but the way the employer wrote it in their book...Its a good thing its a rule, and not the law...

Thats why Buda gets it...They know the risks, yet the only thing they are risking is their life...

Sure, lets let your employer dictate what you do with your life while not on their clock...

I know thats not what you or I are condoning or advising...But I stick to what I said before, and that issue has been discussed many times about keeping it to yourself about your CHL and the obvious accoupraments that go along with that...

You have several options.
1) Carry at the risk of losing your job
2) Keep it locked in the car
3) Get authorization from those above

When I changed jobs a few weeks ago, I asked who to get authorization from, Got it in writing and have carried ever since.

Now, do not ask if you plan on carrying anyway. This is a sure way to get fired. In my case, I would not have carried if they said no. I would have just kept looking for another job.

What it boils down to, these are your choices and only you can decide which is best for you. Good luck on your decision.

seamusTX wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:I know a concerned individual (CI) who works with a really strange individual (SI). The SI will probably lose his job due to poor performance. The CI is seriously concerned what the SI will do ...

The CI could arrange some vacation or "get sick." When fired people go postal, it's usually with a couple of days of being fired.

- Jim

Good point, Jim, and I will pass along that idea, although I am sure he would think of that. He only has a few days vacation left. If he takes too much time off he winds up way behind so....it ends up being a performance issue. His employer is not very understanding.

Anygun

anygunanywhere wrote:We all know what will happen if we break the rules.

We also have reead on these boards the old "Better judged by 12 than carried by 6" stuff.

I know a concerned individual (CI) who works with a really strange individual (SI). The SI will probably lose his job due to poor performance. The CI is seriously concerned what the SI will do and will do what he needs to do to protect himself. The CI has his CHL and is aware that his employer's written policy is not 30.06. He has not received verbal notice.

We all must do what we need to do to protect ourselves and no one here on this board will advocate doing anything illegal. There is a difference between doing something that violates policy and doing something illegal. Violating policy to ensure that you survive if you feel your life is in danger is a decision you must make.

I am not the concerned individual in the above paragraph. Honest.
Anygun

Ummmmm, that leaves only one other character?

anygunanywhere wrote:He only has a few days vacation left. If he takes too much time off he winds up way behind so....it ends up being a performance issue. His employer is not very understanding.

That's a shame, and the employer being demanding might contribute to the response of the SI.

Is there any possibility of working at home or another site?

I worked with one guy who I thought was a possible threat. I don't want to go into details, but I think he had a personality disorder. I wasn't the only one who felt that way. He did get laid off and nothing happened.

- Jim

Nope. He pretty much is stuck going to work.

He is really quite situationally aware. I have faith that he will be okay. Being aware of your surroundings is a large part of surviving.

The world is full of unstable individuals.

As Flintknapper pointed out in the previous post:

Ummmmm, that leaves only one other character?

Instability is one of my more likeable traits.



Anygun

But I'll tell you what I'd do...

#1 NEVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT GUNS OR SHOOTING TO ANYONE AT YOUR JOB, EVER, NO MATTER WHAT!

#2 Once you get your CHL, carry normally to and from work...I would get a little gunsafe and lock it up in your vehicle while on the clock...Do not let anyone at your office see, assume, or have any reason to ask what you have in that thing...If you are cornered, just say you have some emergency cash and supplies in there, to ward off any other inquiries...

++ Some people will "latch-on" if you talk about shooting, going to the range, or anything at all to do with guns, bullets, self-defense, CHL, etc... By never discussing these type of things with coworkers, people will never give you a second look.

If you value the job, I'd play it low just like the above poster mentioned. Heck, you could even carry like this and would probably be OK unless you get made. If you do, expect to lose your job.

If you ask for authorization, and don't get it, expect an even harder time even having the gun locked in your car while you work. It's really a no-win situation IMHO, and I think it's best played out with extreme discretion.

Good luck!

I keep it locked in my car while at work.

I consider my work area to be a low-risk environment. If things changed and I actually felt the risk escalated, I might have to figure out some course of action.

I agree with not discussing gun topics at work.

I don't agree that leaving the gun at home is an option. I make too many stops and detours to/from work. If I got in trouble for having the gun in my car, I would likely initiate a law suit against the company from infringing on my right to defend myself. By prohibiting firearms in the parking lot, they are preventing me from carrying during the weekdays, even where I am legally able to do so.

jason wrote:I keep it locked in my car while at work.

I consider my work area to be a low-risk environment. If things changed and I actually felt the risk escalated, I might have to figure out some course of action.

I agree with not discussing gun topics at work.

I don't agree that leaving the gun at home is an option. I make too many stops and detours to/from work. If I got in trouble for having the gun in my car, I would likely initiate a law suit against the company from infringing on my right to defend myself. By prohibiting firearms in the parking lot, they are preventing me from carrying during the weekdays, even where I am legally able to do so.