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Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:29 pm
by WTR
Bitter Clinger wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 am
CZ's are the most accurate handguns I own.
The P-01 compact is very close in size and capacity to G19, although obviously the all metal construction is heavier and finding holsters is not as easy as it is for Glock. There are really nice, easily interchangeable grip sets out there and while the DA/SA is very smooth, getting used to a manual of arms that includes the decocker when drawing / reholstering during tactical training sessions is a bit of a challenge.
I have a weapon with a decocker and I don’t understand why it would be of concern.
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:33 pm
by Bitter Clinger
WTR wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 4:29 pm
Bitter Clinger wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 am
CZ's are the most accurate handguns I own.
The P-01 compact is very close in size and capacity to G19, although obviously the all metal construction is heavier and finding holsters is not as easy as it is for Glock. There are really nice, easily interchangeable grip sets out there and while the DA/SA is very smooth, getting used to a manual of arms that includes the decocker when drawing / reholstering during tactical training sessions is a bit of a challenge.
I have a weapon with a decocker and I don’t understand why it would be of concern.
In a day long tactical session, you may draw and reholster hundreds of times. YMMV, I prefer not to have to deal with mechanical safeties. That's all.
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:19 am
by The Annoyed Man
Bitter Clinger wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 am
CZ's are the most accurate handguns I own.
The P-01 compact is very close in size and capacity to G19, although obviously the all metal construction is heavier and finding holsters is not as easy as it is for Glock. There are really nice, easily interchangeable grip sets out there and while the DA/SA is very smooth, getting used to a manual of arms that includes the decocker when drawing / reholstering during tactical training sessions is a bit of a challenge.
I’ve never owned a CZ, but I did once own an HK USP Compact that was DA/SA with a decocker. The bore axis wasn’t nearly as low as a CZ's, but I didn’t find learning the manual of arms to be that big of a deal. At the time, my primary carry was a 1911, and the HK could also be carried cocked and locked - which is how I carried it initially. But it didn’t take very many repetitions to get used to carrying it decocked with the DA first pull. No idea what the DA first pull is like on a CZ, but I
did swap out the HK's hammer spring for a lighter one - which did yield a lighter DA pull, without seeming to affect primer strike reliability. Anyway, my point is that retraining for a DA/SA pistol with a decocker shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:46 am
by Bitter Clinger
The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 8:19 am
Bitter Clinger wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 am
CZ's are the most accurate handguns I own.
The P-01 compact is very close in size and capacity to G19, although obviously the all metal construction is heavier and finding holsters is not as easy as it is for Glock. There are really nice, easily interchangeable grip sets out there and while the DA/SA is very smooth, getting used to a manual of arms that includes the decocker when drawing / reholstering during tactical training sessions is a bit of a challenge.
I’ve never owned a CZ, but I did once own an HK USP Compact that was DA/SA with a decocker. The bore axis wasn’t nearly as low as a CZ's, but I didn’t find learning the manual of arms to be that big of a deal. At the time, my primary carry was a 1911, and the HK could also be carried cocked and locked - which is how I carried it initially. But it didn’t take very many repetitions to get used to carrying it decocked with the DA first pull. No idea what the DA first pull is like on a CZ, but I
did swap out the HK's hammer spring for a lighter one - which did yield a lighter DA pull, without seeming to affect primer strike reliability. Anyway, my point is that retraining for a DA/SA pistol with a decocker shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
I stated that CZ's are best shooting handguns that I own. I didn't say that the decocker was a "big deal". I said I do not prefer mechanical safeties for tactical training and that it was a bit of a challenge. Jeez. How annoying...
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:00 am
by Liberty
The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 8:19 am
I’ve never owned a CZ, but I did once own an HK USP Compact that was DA/SA with a decocker. The bore axis wasn’t nearly as low as a CZ's, but I didn’t find learning the manual of arms to be that big of a deal. At the time, my primary carry was a 1911, and the HK could also be carried cocked and locked - which is how I carried it initially. But it didn’t take very many repetitions to get used to carrying it decocked with the DA first pull. No idea what the DA first pull is like on a CZ, but I
did swap out the HK's hammer spring for a lighter one - which did yield a lighter DA pull, without seeming to affect primer strike reliability. Anyway, my point is that retraining for a DA/SA pistol with a decocker shouldn’t be that big of a deal.
The biggest issue will be developing the muscle memory to sweep the safety off on a draw. The long hard pull of the DA shot is not as big of an issue as some people make it. On a quick point and shoot it hardly matters, on more carefully aimed shot, one has the option of cocking the hammer.
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 2:12 pm
by longhorn_92
carlson1 wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 12:29 am
I have a CZ P01 that has been to Cajun Gun Works. I have no ideal what it was like before CGW, but I do know it is the greatest DA/SA pistol I have ever owned and I have had several.
I don’t know where you are located, but if you are close to Shoot Smart in Grand Prarie you are more than welcome to test drive mine. It is not for sale though.
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Did you get the Cajun Gunworks Pro Package or Defensive Package?
I've considered doing it but can't find the P01.
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 2:23 pm
by justplanechris
cmgee67 wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 10:55 pm
Actually the the P-07 is not striker fired it is double action single action and it has a de-cocker as well. It is polymer framed you are correct there.
Doh! You're right, I was thinking of the P-10.
Liberty wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:00 am
The biggest issue will be developing the muscle memory to sweep the safety off on a draw. The long hard pull of the DA shot is not as big of an issue as some people make it. On a quick point and shoot it hardly matters, on more carefully aimed shot, one has the option of cocking the hammer.
Actually on the P-01 there's no safety, just a decocker. Hit that lever to lower the hammer to 'half cock' before holstering, and your first pull is DA without doing anything other than drawing.
Re: CZ P-01
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:12 pm
by carlson1
longhorn_92 wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 2:12 pm
carlson1 wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 12:29 am
I have a CZ P01 that has been to Cajun Gun Works. I have no ideal what it was like before CGW, but I do know it is the greatest DA/SA pistol I have ever owned and I have had several.
I don’t know where you are located, but if you are close to Shoot Smart in Grand Prarie you are more than welcome to test drive mine. It is not for sale though.
F2B5DBC3-228F-409A-9984-049CE0D2D39D.jpeg
602AD804-73DE-4EAF-8D97-602BCF93FBD3.jpeg
Did you get the Cajun Gunworks Pro Package or Defensive Package?
I've considered doing it but can't find the P01.
I bought it from another Forum member who sent it to CGW and had the full package, but I don’t know the package. I have the paper work, but never paid much attention to it. He then put it in his safe and never fired it. He sold it to me and I have ran over 500 rounds down range now and it works flawlessly.