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Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:41 am
by anygunanywhere
bubba84 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:36 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:39 pm
bubba84 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:17 pm He didnt need a RAS or PC as he had consent.
I realize the citizen gave consent.

Shouldn’t the normal situation be that there is RAS or PC before a cop wants to search law abiding citizens?

Why did he want to run the weapon? What led him to think it might be stolen? Does the deputy make it a habit of pulling these unnecessary searches on all citizens exercising their 2A rights? The 4A protects against these searches.
The 4th wasn't violated as he had consent.
Bubba, I stated that I realized that the citizen gave consent. I know that his 4th was not violated.

My point is what is in large red text. Why did the deputy believe it was necessary to run the weapon to see if it was stolen? He had no PC or RAS.

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:11 am
by ScottDLS
We’ve got a dim license plate bulb! Time to get Lor, the drug dog!

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:35 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
It is a regular occurrence on Live PD to run the serial numbers on firearms. I have also seen it on some of the other "cop shows". Northwoods law, Lonestar law and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:27 pm
by TxRVer
anygunanywhere wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:28 pm Last night I was watching Live PD. A county sheriff from MO pulled over a man for no front plate.
That's the reason my Lexus has a front plate on it. The service advisor asked me twice if I wanted the front plate installed.

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:47 pm
by bubba84
anygunanywhere wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:41 am
bubba84 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:36 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:39 pm
bubba84 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:17 pm He didnt need a RAS or PC as he had consent.
I realize the citizen gave consent.

Shouldn’t the normal situation be that there is RAS or PC before a cop wants to search law abiding citizens?

Why did he want to run the weapon? What led him to think it might be stolen? Does the deputy make it a habit of pulling these unnecessary searches on all citizens exercising their 2A rights? The 4A protects against these searches.
The 4th wasn't violated as he had consent.
Bubba, I stated that I realized that the citizen gave consent. I know that his 4th was not violated.

My point is what is in large red text. Why did the deputy believe it was necessary to run the weapon to see if it was stolen? He had no PC or RAS.

You dont catch fish if you dont cast the net.

Same reason he runs the LP on the car and the DL of the driver. He doesnt know until he checks. Without pc or ras he has to ask.

Odds of someone with a LTC carrying a stolen pistol are prolly slim to none but if it was bought it a private transfer it very well could be and the current owner never know about it.

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:09 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
bubba84 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:47 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:41 am
bubba84 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:36 pm
anygunanywhere wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:39 pm
bubba84 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:17 pm He didnt need a RAS or PC as he had consent.
I realize the citizen gave consent.

Shouldn’t the normal situation be that there is RAS or PC before a cop wants to search law abiding citizens?

Why did he want to run the weapon? What led him to think it might be stolen? Does the deputy make it a habit of pulling these unnecessary searches on all citizens exercising their 2A rights? The 4A protects against these searches.
The 4th wasn't violated as he had consent.
Bubba, I stated that I realized that the citizen gave consent. I know that his 4th was not violated.

My point is what is in large red text. Why did the deputy believe it was necessary to run the weapon to see if it was stolen? He had no PC or RAS.

You dont catch fish if you dont cast the net.

Same reason he runs the LP on the car and the DL of the driver. He doesnt know until he checks. Without pc or ras he has to ask.

Odds of someone with a LTC carrying a stolen pistol are prolly slim to none but if it was bought it a private transfer it very well could be and the current owner never know about it.
This is the very reason I always laugh when the seller of a firearm says they want a bill of sale to protect themselves. The seller has zero to worry about, the buyer is the one who should be asking for the bill of sale.

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:14 pm
by Allons
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:35 pm It is a regular occurrence on Live PD to run the serial numbers on firearms. I have also seen it on some of the other "cop shows". Northwoods law, Lonestar law and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.
Northwoods law, Lonestar law, and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.
Funny I thought this was legal too, after watching so many Alaska State Troopers episodes.

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:41 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Allons wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:14 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:35 pm It is a regular occurrence on Live PD to run the serial numbers on firearms. I have also seen it on some of the other "cop shows". Northwoods law, Lonestar law and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.
Northwoods law, Lonestar law, and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.
Funny I thought this was legal too, after watching so many Alaska State Troopers episodes.
When I start watching those episodes I get addicted and can't stop. Suddenly 3 hours has blown by. Haha

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:24 pm
by Allons
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:41 pm
Allons wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:14 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:35 pm It is a regular occurrence on Live PD to run the serial numbers on firearms. I have also seen it on some of the other "cop shows". Northwoods law, Lonestar law and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.
Northwoods law, Lonestar law, and Alaska Troopers all show officers running handgun serial numbers. Funny thing. Seeing it so much had me thinking it was legal.
Funny I thought this was legal too, after watching so many Alaska State Troopers episodes.
When I start watching those episodes I get addicted and can't stop. Suddenly 3 hours has blown by. Haha
:thumbs2:

Re: Questionable Search on Live PD.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:42 pm
by MadMonkey
I have a former Richland LivePD deputy a couple hundred feet away right now getting trained on his new job. He said he was tired of making $35k a year :thumbs2: