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Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 11:33 am
by extremist

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 2:33 pm
by Paladin
The British have long had a policy of keeping Germany down and Russia out of Europe. One giveaway is that during Cold War 1.0 the British went about systematically attempting to destroy German Flaktowers. The Flaktowers were outstanding defensive positions and had proven themselves very effective repelling Russian attacks. Flaktowers were defensive in nature, not offensive. The NATO spent untold amounts of money defending Europe, so why destroy the best defensive positions in Germany? The answer is that the British wanted to keep Germany down.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:12 pm
by extremist
Paladin wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 2:33 pm
The British have long had a policy of keeping Germany down and Russia out of Europe. One giveaway is that during Cold War 1.0 the British went about systematically attempting to destroy German Flaktowers. The Flaktowers were outstanding defensive positions and had proven themselves very effective repelling Russian attacks. Flaktowers could were defensive in nature, not offensive. The NATO spent untold amounts of money defending Europe, so why destroy the best defensive positions in Germany? The answer is that the British wanted to keep Germany down.
Agreed.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:32 pm
by philip964

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:05 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Primarily through the battles fought by Soviet forces, Nazi Germany was defeated, but instead of gratitude for this historical feat, the US government was persuaded by its embedded faction of Russia-hating officials to embark on a totally different course of action.

This began with the totally unnecessary and criminal decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed and injured at least 200,000 Japanese. Japan had been fully prepared to surrender and because of this, almost all high ranking military officals, including Eisenhower and McArthur, opposed the use of atomic bombs. However, Truman’s inner circle of advisors convinced him to do this. In actuality, this was not to end the war on Japan but to show the USSR that this could happen to them if they wouldn’t follow USA’s dictats.
These two paragraphs are absolutely revisionist horse manure. My dad's unit (2/9, 3rd Div, USMC) was slated to go in with the first wave onto the west facing beaches of southwest Kyushu during operation downfall. Casualty expectations for BOTH sides, military AND civilian, were catastrophic. He might well have not survived it, and I might not well be alive today to type this. I take this kind of crap very personally. People who write this kind of crap can go straight to hades. The Japanese were "so ready to surrender", that their military leadership attempted a coup and assassination of the Emperor when they found out that he intended to surrender. A friend of my dad's was with Naval intelligence and was among the very first Americans ashore on Japanese soil after the Emperor's radio message, tasked with assessing Japan's still existent military capabilities post surrender. Those defensive capabilities were still impressive to say the least.

Japan wrote a check she couldn’t cash when she attacked Pearl Harbor. The bill came due in the summer of 1945. Several months earlier, 90,000 to 100,000 Japanese were killed in the firebombing of ONE city—Tokyo—but nobody ever wants to talk about that. It’s always Hiroshima this and Nagasaki that. The combined civilian dead from both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are estimated (nobody really knows the actual number) to be between 109,000 to 206,000. I don’t count their military deaths in those two cities, because they can kiss Nanking's posterior.

The Japanese who either died in the atomic bombings or of radiological causes in the months and years following are a drop in the bucket compared to the millions upon millions of people the Japanese killed everywhere else. I can’t waste one second of regret on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of her leadership at the time.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 6:35 am
by srothstein
I agree 100% with TAM and BigGuy on the bombings, but I don't want to let the other revisionist paragraph go unaddressed. While there is some credit to be given to the Russians, it falls much more on the American and British troops. Russia could not have won anything against Germany if it were not for her two biggest allies - the US and the weather. We supplied a lot of the Russian arms used, not all but a lot. And Germany was certainly not prepared for the Russian winter.

Russia would never have even gotten into Germany if our troops had not been ordered to hold up and wait for the Russians to enter too.

And this does not mention the French and Polish exiles who fled to Britain and helped, or the many other smaller countries that also contributed. Defeating the Germans and the Japanese was a team effort that would have failed without the US being on the team. It could easily have failed even with the US if any of the other countries had not been there but the US was indispensable to it. And that was not just our military power, but also our industrial and economic power were necessary parts.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 8:13 pm
by philip964
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... -rcna27559

US officials said we helped sink big Russian ship.

US officials need to keep their mouths shut and NBC News shouldn’t publish stuff like this.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 8:38 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
philip964 wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:13 pm https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... -rcna27559

US officials said we helped sink big Russian ship.

US officials need to keep their mouths shut and NBC News shouldn’t publish stuff like this.
Joe Bidens idiot administration is going to cause a nuclear war.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:34 pm
by extremist
Another great article
https://maloneinstitute.org/wef
Meme goes it 🤣

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 9:41 am
by Vol Texan
Putin dies and goes to hell, but after a while, he is given a day off for good behavior.

So he goes to Moscow, enters a bar, orders a drink, and asks the bartender:

-Is Crimea ours?

-Yes, it is.

-And the Donbas?

-Also ours.

-And Kyiv?

-We got that too.

Satisfied, Putin drinks, and asks:

-Thanks, how much do I owe you?

-5 euros.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:17 pm
by Paladin
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:38 pm
philip964 wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:13 pm https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... -rcna27559

US officials said we helped sink big Russian ship.

US officials need to keep their mouths shut and NBC News shouldn’t publish stuff like this.
Joe Bidens idiot administration is going to cause a nuclear war.
THIS

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:30 pm
by philip964
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/henry-ki ... 12366.html

Henry Kissenger warns against pushing Russia into an alliance with China.

We should pressure Ukraine to negotiate a peace.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 am
by extremist

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:18 am
by Paladin
extremist wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 6:51 am Interesting?

https://expose-news.com/2022/05/18/us-d ... -nov-2019/
Just reading the article it seems to suggest the origin of the plandemic.

Re: A Ukraine and Russia post

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:23 am
by Paladin
philip964 wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 9:30 pm https://finance.yahoo.com/news/henry-ki ... 12366.html

Henry Kissenger warns against pushing Russia into an alliance with China.

We should pressure Ukraine to negotiate a peace.
I can't say I agree with Kissinger a lot, but he's far more intelligent than the clown show and certainly correct about this one. I'm afraid that even if his prudent advice was followed it may be too late.
Mr Habeck, who doubles as economy minister, said Germany is more or less ready to endure the shock of a total cut-off in Russian oil imports but others want to carry on as if nothing had changed.
As far as this goes, Habeck wins the clown show award of the day. If Russia did a total cut-off of "energy" to Germany the country's entire industry would be shut down. And they are further shooting themselves in the foot shutting down their nuclear reactor.