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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:54 pm
by NotRPB
oops, my error, I just got back from a morning doctor office minor surgery and not exactly together yet

I just deleted prior post which contained the error I made

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:49 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
Work quickly, committee!!!! :thumbs2:

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:19 pm
by v7a
I hope the conference report will get done & distributed in time to avoid a filibuster. Clock is ticking...

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:27 pm
by NotRPB
‏@eramshaw 1m1 minute ago

House is adjourning until Saturday at 10 a.m. #txlege

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:08 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
Now that HB910 has passed both chambers, chances we get campus carry done get better?? Will the committee be able to meet in time to hash it out???

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:10 pm
by jmra
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Now that HB910 has passed both chambers, chances we get campus carry done get better?? Will the committee be able to meet in time to hash it out???
I'm afraid the Ellis' of the legislature may redouble their efforts since they got caught off guard with HB910 coming up so quickly. They need something to claim as a Victory.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:47 pm
by CJD
jmra wrote:
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Now that HB910 has passed both chambers, chances we get campus carry done get better?? Will the committee be able to meet in time to hash it out???
I'm afraid the Ellis' of the legislature may redouble their efforts since they got caught off guard with HB910 coming up so quickly. They need something to claim as a Victory.
The opt out amendment will be a victory should they keep it.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:49 pm
by jmra
CJD wrote:
jmra wrote:
TexasJohnBoy wrote:Now that HB910 has passed both chambers, chances we get campus carry done get better?? Will the committee be able to meet in time to hash it out???
I'm afraid the Ellis' of the legislature may redouble their efforts since they got caught off guard with HB910 coming up so quickly. They need something to claim as a Victory.
The opt out amendment will be a victory should they keep it.
They won't be satisfied with that.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:50 pm
by v7a
The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:56 pm
by AJSully421
v7a wrote:The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).
I agree, the only system that will have enough votes to ban guns in any meaningful way will be the UT system. The rest will have campus carry, with maybe a few restrictions in only a few locations on campus.

Never forget: Concealed means concealed.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:13 pm
by CJD
AJSully421 wrote:
v7a wrote:The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).
I agree, the only system that will have enough votes to ban guns in any meaningful way will be the UT system. The rest will have campus carry, with maybe a few restrictions in only a few locations on campus.

Never forget: Concealed means concealed.
Don't underestimate boards of regents. I bet we will see large opt outs at ALL Texas public universities.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:15 pm
by casp625
CJD wrote:
AJSully421 wrote:
v7a wrote:The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).
I agree, the only system that will have enough votes to ban guns in any meaningful way will be the UT system. The rest will have campus carry, with maybe a few restrictions in only a few locations on campus.

Never forget: Concealed means concealed.
Don't underestimate boards of regents. I bet we will see large opt outs at ALL Texas public universities.
Yes but they wouldn't be able to opt out the entire campus, only certain areas with "justification"

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:17 pm
by CJD
casp625 wrote:
CJD wrote:
AJSully421 wrote:
v7a wrote:The bill author already said he will not oppose the partial-opt-out amendment. I have a feeling that's because a deal has been struck whereby Democrats will not filibuster the bill. Or maybe that's just my imagination running wild... In any case, I think passing SB11 as amended is better than not passing SB11 at all (go read the language of the partial-opt-out amendment, it's not as bad as you may think at first).
I agree, the only system that will have enough votes to ban guns in any meaningful way will be the UT system. The rest will have campus carry, with maybe a few restrictions in only a few locations on campus.

Never forget: Concealed means concealed.
Don't underestimate boards of regents. I bet we will see large opt outs at ALL Texas public universities.
Yes but they wouldn't be able to opt out the entire campus, only certain areas with "justification"
I know, and I'm sure that will be abused, and can't be remedied until 2017. I agree, though, that it's better than nothing. To me, decriminalization is more important than preemption on "rules and regulations."

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:18 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
I will personally appear in front of at least one board against bans. If I had to guess, I would go up against some of the higher ups... That's if it passes, and I still hope so. The partial opt-out included, it would be forward motion which is better than no motion at all.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:05 pm
by v7a
Still no conference report. Bad sign? Or would they just suspend the rules like they did today (with HB910), so they can vote before the usual '24 hours after report distributed' restriction?