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Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:26 pm
by Paladin
Study Reveals 'Dramatic' Decline In All Three COVID-19 Vaccines' Efficacy Over Time
Between early March and Septemper, as the Delta variant rapidly became the dominant strain worldwide, the ability of Moderna's two-dose vaccine to prevent infections dropped from 89% - 58%, Pfizer's went from 87% - 45%, and J&J's single-dose vaccine went from 86% to just 13%.
The findings were published Thursday in peer-reviewed Science.
That said, the vaccines' ability to prevent death in older Americans remained somewhat robust over the same period, according to the report.
Among veterans 65 and older who were inoculated with the Moderna vaccine, those who developed a so-called breakthrough infection were 76% less likely to die of COVID-19 compared with unvaccinated veterans of the same age.
Older veterans who got the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and subsequently experienced a breakthrough infection were 70% less likely to die than were their unvaccinated peers.
And when older vets who got a single jab of the J&J vaccine suffered a breakthrough infection, they were 52% less likely to die than their peers who didn’t get any shots. -LA Times
For veterans younger than 65, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines prevented death 84% and 82% respectively, while J&J recipients were 73% less likely to die vs. their unvaccinated peers.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:25 pm
by K.Mooneyham
Paladin wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:26 pm
Study Reveals 'Dramatic' Decline In All Three COVID-19 Vaccines' Efficacy Over Time
Between early March and Septemper, as the Delta variant rapidly became the dominant strain worldwide, the ability of Moderna's two-dose vaccine to prevent infections dropped from 89% - 58%, Pfizer's went from 87% - 45%, and J&J's single-dose vaccine went from 86% to just 13%.
The findings were published Thursday in peer-reviewed Science.
That said, the vaccines' ability to prevent death in older Americans remained somewhat robust over the same period, according to the report.
Among veterans 65 and older who were inoculated with the Moderna vaccine, those who developed a so-called breakthrough infection were 76% less likely to die of COVID-19 compared with unvaccinated veterans of the same age.
Older veterans who got the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and subsequently experienced a breakthrough infection were 70% less likely to die than were their unvaccinated peers.
And when older vets who got a single jab of the J&J vaccine suffered a breakthrough infection, they were 52% less likely to die than their peers who didn’t get any shots. -LA Times
For veterans younger than 65, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines prevented death 84% and 82% respectively, while J&J recipients were 73% less likely to die vs. their unvaccinated peers.
Uh-huh, except that the younger a person is, the less likely they are to die from COVID. That's not ME saying that, mind you, that's according to the data on the Texas COVID tracking dashboard, which I have been following since they put up stats on deaths. If you plot it on a simple graph, it looks like a rapidly ascending ramp from near zero in babies to (likely) asymptotic in very advanced age. I wish I was more math-savvy because that probably means something specific that I just don't have the knowledge to understand.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:01 pm
by flechero
None of these studies mentions those with natural immunity and previous infection. Which is supposed to be much more robust than any of the vaccines... according to the few Dr.'s that have spoken out and studies that have been since suppressed.
There is a big percentage of the country that now has had covid and doesn't need the vaccine or any unnecessary risk that it can bring.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:07 am
by philip964
https://abc7news.com/where-is-gavin-new ... /11213410/
The California Governor Gavin Newsom is missing in action. A man who loves the camera has not been seen in public for 11 days shortly after getting his Covid booster.
If it was something else, and not the booster he would immediately come forward and say something, since this would stop other people from getting the vaccine.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:18 am
by Paladin
US COVID Deaths In 2021 Have Surpassed 2020's Total... Despite Vaccines, Treatments
The Wall Street Journal has its own explanation, suggesting lower-than-expected immunization rates as well as fatigue with precautionary measures like masks allowed the highly contagious Delta variant to spread, largely among the unvaccinated, epidemiologists say.
This statement from the Wall Street Journal seems bogus:
Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States
CDC has an excuse too, claiming that there was a larger undercount of Covid-19 deaths in 2020, when the disease was newer and a scarcity of tests made confirming some infections difficult.
The statement from the CDC is actually true. There is good evidence of an undercount of COVID deaths 2020. Some of the undercount was politically motivated, some from lack of testing.
That said, even if the death counts are roughly equal, and the vaccines have been shown to reduce severe symptoms and deaths... this is more evidence that Dr. Fauci should be fired. The results are in. His unreasonable demands have been shown to be a failure.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:02 pm
by philip964
New Botswana variant with 32 'horrific' mutations
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -EVER.html
So much for getting a vaccine to prevent mutations.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/forme ... -collapses
Five fold increase in sudden death of FIFA players this year.
Filipino baseball star dies on the mound of heart attack.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:54 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Heard it on the news this morning. They said the RNA vaccine can be changed to add new variants in a few weeks time and out for distribution in 6 weeks. My question is how many darned boosters are we going to have to get? One every six months forever?
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:51 pm
by seph
03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:54 pm
Heard it on the news this morning. They said the RNA vaccine can be changed to add new variants in a few weeks time and out for distribution in 6 weeks. My question is how many darned boosters are we going to have to get? One every six months forever?
Don't forget to add time for testing and FDA approvals. So add a few months to that time frame. Any change to the vaccine means a new approval process.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:36 am
by 03Lightningrocks
seph wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:51 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:54 pm
Heard it on the news this morning. They said the RNA vaccine can be changed to add new variants in a few weeks time and out for distribution in 6 weeks. My question is how many darned boosters are we going to have to get? One every six months forever?
Don't forget to add time for testing and FDA approvals. So add a few months to that time frame. Any change to the vaccine means a new approval process.
The real solution seems to be in creating better therapeutics. Like tamaflue for those that catch the flue each year. Even those that have been vaxed for it. The reason politicians and elitist leaders don't push therapeutics IMHO is that they can't continue to pass edicts down upon the serfs if we can simply take a few pills and get over Covid. They want to maintain the power and control we have allowed them to gain over us all.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:29 pm
by K.Mooneyham
03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:54 pm
Heard it on the news this morning. They said the RNA vaccine can be changed to add new variants in a few weeks time and out for distribution in 6 weeks. My question is how many darned boosters are we going to have to get? One every six months forever?
I keep saying that eventually, you'll have to be on a constant "drip" of the Fauci juice to "protect" you. Yes, I'm being somewhat facetious but it does seem to me that this thing will be never-ending, and neither will the mandated boosters.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:48 am
by philip964
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:10 pm
by philip964
https://apple.news/AkxfTbCCDRbWqSTnFiX7Sug
First omicron variant in USA. Returned from South Africa to LA.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:56 pm
by anygunanywhere
Omicron was in Europe before South Africa.
Omicron was detected first in 4 vaxxed individuals.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/10600250 ... uth-africa
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:18 pm
by Paladin
With that and this:
Moderna CEO Repeats That Vaccine Won't Work For Omicron; Antibody Cocktails Also Need Modification
It's clear that the vaccines are continuing to fail ... rapidly.
They couldn't scare everybody every few months if people were using N95 respirators... but it seems fear is the goal.
Re: Corona Virus (COVID-19)( SARS-CoV-2) from China: Its going to be bad.
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:44 pm
by anygunanywhere