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.001 Introduction

[COMPANY] and its subsidiaries located in the U.S. and abroad (U.S. Firms) strictly prohibit weapons of any type, whether visible or concealed, at the workplace or at any U.S. Firms-sponsored event. Weapons include, but are not limited to: firearms, knives with blades more than three inches in length, any explosive materials, and any other dangerous or deadly substance or object that could be used to harass, intimidate, or injure another person.

As used in this policy the term "workplace" means all areas in which the U.S. Firms operate, including, without limitation, any U.S. Firms premises or worksite or client's place of business; U.S. Firms' or client vehicles, public or private means of transportation while engaged in firm business; U.S. Firms-owned or leased equipment, lockers, desks, workspace, and storage facilities.

This policy shall apply even if the owner has obtained the necessary licenses or the law permits.

.002 Violations and Reporting

If an individual observes or has knowledge of a violation of this policy, whether by personnel of the U.S. Firms or others, he or she has an obligation to promptly report such violation to the appropriate supervisor, the office managing partner or the office Human Resource director.

In any instance where an individual observes or has knowledge that an imminent threat to safety of persons or property exists because of an apparent violation of this policy, he or she should immediately contact building security or the police in the absence of security. Where criminal violations are involved or suspected, appropriate law enforcement agencies will be notified.

If a violation of this policy occurs, the U.S. Firms will take whatever action is appropriate under the circumstances, up to and including termination.

TLew wrote:Also, I just looked at our administrative policies at work and found the "Weapons-free Workplace" policy.

.001 Introduction

[COMPANY] and its subsidiaries located in the U.S. and abroad (U.S. Firms) strictly prohibit weapons of any type, whether visible or concealed, at the workplace or at any U.S. Firms-sponsored event. Weapons include, but are not limited to: firearms, knives with blades more than three inches in length, any explosive materials, and any other dangerous or deadly substance or object that could be used to harass, intimidate, or injure another person.

As used in this policy the term "workplace" means all areas in which the U.S. Firms operate, including, without limitation, any U.S. Firms premises or worksite or client's place of business; U.S. Firms' or client vehicles, public or private means of transportation while engaged in firm business; U.S. Firms-owned or leased equipment, lockers, desks, workspace, and storage facilities.

This policy shall apply even if the owner has obtained the necessary licenses or the law permits.

.002 Violations and Reporting

If an individual observes or has knowledge of a violation of this policy, whether by personnel of the U.S. Firms or others, he or she has an obligation to promptly report such violation to the appropriate supervisor, the office managing partner or the office Human Resource director.

In any instance where an individual observes or has knowledge that an imminent threat to safety of persons or property exists because of an apparent violation of this policy, he or she should immediately contact building security or the police in the absence of security. Where criminal violations are involved or suspected, appropriate law enforcement agencies will be notified.

If a violation of this policy occurs, the U.S. Firms will take whatever action is appropriate under the circumstances, up to and including termination.

The bolded part is the section I have issue with. Fine, I understand I can lose my job if I carry into work, but I'm not ok with them telling me that leaving my EDC in the car in transport to the office or client would constitute termination. In my opinion (which isn't worth much), that's just bull. I plan on contacting HR and asking them about this one piece of verbiage to clarify their intentions.

RottenApple wrote:First, don't ask, don't tell. If you ask, you are just setting yourself up for possible termination.

Second, read the parking lot bill. As long as your company doesn't meet one of the exceptions, they cannot legally prevent you from carrying to/from work and storing the firearm in your vehicle.

Remember, concealed means concealed.

TLew wrote:Thanks for the reply Rotten. I would ask that you go back and re-read my comment. I was not worried about legality of carrying -- I can legally carry in my office place since they do not provide a 30.06 notice. What my comment was in reference to was the fact that they can terminate me based upon carrying in the car because they have it as part of the policy.

Regarding the "Don't ask, don't tell," I am not carrying currently, there is no possible downside to asking in this case, and they won't be searching my car anyway to look for it in the future. Any way you cut it, I'm fired if they find it as it stands right now. I might as well ask and see if their purview changes.

Sec. 52.061. RESTRICTION ON PROHIBITING EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO OR STORAGE OF FIREARM OR AMMUNITION. A public or private employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully possesses ammunition from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is authorized by law to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area the employer provides for employees.

TLew wrote:I've read the bill/act and know it. It refers to the ability to leave a gun in the parking lot and not have action taken on you by your employer unless said employee is a school, oil/gas company, etc and given that the vehicle is owned by actor.

I'm on my iPad and unable to look up the policy definition of "company business" however it includes travel to the client. His would be considered under the previously posted policy and, if I'm not mistaken, would not be protected under the parking lot bill. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong -- I would love to be wrong!,,,

TLew wrote:

RottenApple wrote:First, don't ask, don't tell. If you ask, you are just setting yourself up for possible termination.

Second, read the parking lot bill. As long as your company doesn't meet one of the exceptions, they cannot legally prevent you from carrying to/from work and storing the firearm in your vehicle.

Remember, concealed means concealed.

Thanks for the reply Rotten. I would ask that you go back and re-read my comment. I was not worried about legality of carrying -- I can legally carry in my office place since they do not provide a 30.06 notice. What my comment was in reference to was the fact that they can terminate me based upon carrying in the car because they have it as part of the policy.

Regarding the "Don't ask, don't tell," I am not carrying currently, there is no possible downside to asking in this case, and they won't be searching my car anyway to look for it in the future. Any way you cut it, I'm fired if they find it as it stands right now. I might as well ask and see if their purview changes.

J_Davis84 wrote:

TLew wrote:

RottenApple wrote:First, don't ask, don't tell. If you ask, you are just setting yourself up for possible termination.

Second, read the parking lot bill. As long as your company doesn't meet one of the exceptions, they cannot legally prevent you from carrying to/from work and storing the firearm in your vehicle.

Remember, concealed means concealed.

Thanks for the reply Rotten. I would ask that you go back and re-read my comment. I was not worried about legality of carrying -- I can legally carry in my office place since they do not provide a 30.06 notice. What my comment was in reference to was the fact that they can terminate me based upon carrying in the car because they have it as part of the policy.

Regarding the "Don't ask, don't tell," I am not carrying currently, there is no possible downside to asking in this case, and they won't be searching my car anyway to look for it in the future. Any way you cut it, I'm fired if they find it as it stands right now. I might as well ask and see if their purview changes.

I thought if your company has it in their policy and posted up that, they do not have to have the 30.06 sign for their employees to not carry into the business? As the 30.06 sign is for the non employees

Just want to get clarity on this

riiano wrote:Got my plastic yesterday, so first time carrying. So looking [abbreviated profanity deleted] any
Signs. Went into resturant for lunch, did not see any
Signs. Got almost done eating and spotted a RED TSBC
Sign behind bar(bar in back of place). Went to leave and spotted
A BLUE TABC sign on inside of door. They had both TABC
Signs up. In the wrong placrs but up