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Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:22 am
by sjfcontrol
ffemt300 wrote:apparently wherever the witness is currently is more important than the trial. you think the state would have planned this witness a little better.
He's on some kind of cross-country hike. They discussed it yesterday with the judge. Of course she overruled all the defense motions regarding him.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:29 am
by sjfcontrol
What is the point of a gun lock with the key still attached?
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:30 am
by ffemt300
as she muzzle sweeps the entire courtroom....
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:31 am
by Cedar Park Dad
ffemt300 wrote:apparently wherever the witness is currently is more important than the trial. you think the state would have planned this witness a little better.
Again blocked-don't know what this is, but it sure sounds like the Keystone Kops.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:52 am
by VMI77
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
The judge replied that she doesn't want to argue that now.
If that comes in trial is over.[/quote]
Naw, the judge is in the bag for the prosecution, she's not going to allow Trayvon's history. The fix was in way before the trial started. I wouldn't even be surprised if the judge issued a directed verdict, or took some other action to overrule an unfavorable jury decision --but I'm not sure what's possible under Florida law.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:56 am
by VMI77
Z's old professor testified Z wanted to become a prosecutor.....that's absolute proof of an evil and depraved mind bent on swimming in a sea of political corruption.

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:04 am
by ffemt300
Did O 'Mara just say gun "nuzzle"?

Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:06 am
by SigP250
It's ashamed that you carry for protection and when you do use it, the outcome depends on the color of your skin it seems. This is sad that a man may go to prison for defending himself.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:08 am
by ScooterSissy
VMI77 wrote:
Naw, the judge is in the bag for the prosecution, she's not going to allow Trayvon's history. The fix was in way before the trial started. I wouldn't even be surprised if the judge issued a directed verdict, or took some other action to overrule an unfavorable jury decision --but I'm not sure what's possible under Florida law.
A judge cannot issue a directed "guilty" verdict in a criminal case. However, they can issue a directed "not guilty" verdict.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:24 am
by texanjoker
SigP250 wrote:It's ashamed that you carry for protection and when you do use it, the outcome depends on the color of your skin it seems. This is sad that a man may go to prison for defending himself.
Color always comes into play for the LEO shootings. This is no different. Sad times we are in.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:25 pm
by dinolord
texanjoker wrote:SigP250 wrote:It's ashamed that you carry for protection and when you do use it, the outcome depends on the color of your skin it seems. This is sad that a man may go to prison for defending himself.
Color always comes into play for the LEO shootings. This is no different. Sad times we are in.
America: Innocent until proven guilty! (Unless it can be turned racist in some way).
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:35 pm
by The Annoyed Man
philip964 wrote:Apparently Prosecution is wanting to bring in as evidence of a crime being committed, Zimmerman's school records.
Judge will be ruling on that today.
The judge CAN'T say yes if she disallowed the introduction of Treyvon's school records. Not to mention that George Zimmerman has been out of school for
how long now?
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:38 pm
by sjfcontrol
The Annoyed Man wrote:philip964 wrote:Apparently Prosecution is wanting to bring in as evidence of a crime being committed, Zimmerman's school records.
Judge will be ruling on that today.
The judge CAN'T say yes if she disallowed the introduction of Treyvon's school records. Not to mention that George Zimmerman has been out of school for
how long now?
She can if the prosecution "opens the door".
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:38 pm
by G26ster
I don't think logic works in this case. regardless of evidence, or the lack thereof. I believe the jury will decide based on emotion, preconceived notions, and pressure. After all, even if there's no chance of finding 2d degree murder, they may convict based on manslaughter due to the following:
a) I don't know if they will be told, or will be aware of, the fact that manslaughter in this case will carry a penalty (30 yrs) just as severe as 2d degree murder because TM was a minor. They may believe the lesser charge of manslaughter carries a much lighter sentence than 2d degree murder.
b) A 17 yr old unarmed "boy" was killed, and we must do "something."
c) The possibilities of riots, or retribution against them, or just being label "racist" if they acquit.
I hope I am wrong, but my gut tells me otherwise, that the "facts" and the "law" in this case are rather immaterial. I believe the case will be decided by "feelings" over "facts."
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:40 pm
by Frankie
Skype Tolls Bombard Zimmerman Trial with calls.
For those that are blocked and can't watch it live.
[youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xIKppHDJSJc[/youtube]