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Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:05 pm
by TXBO
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
What can they possibly do? Is the amendment identical to Dutton?
I'm not putting that on a public forum.

Chas.
Is the language identical?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:06 pm
by Winchster
Jasonw560 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
Yep.
I realize the potential of bad effects but if Estes succeeds in keeping this clean for the rest of the night, we win. Right? Or is the Dutton amendment a future plan to kill the actual law?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:06 pm
by CJD
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
What can they possibly do? Is the amendment identical to Dutton?
I'm not putting that on a public forum.

Chas.
Is the language identical?
Yes

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:06 pm
by Glockster
Amend 11 tabled, 12 on deck.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:08 pm
by TXBO
CJD wrote:
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Folks, if two F-rated Democrats (Ellis and West) are in favor of the Amendment, that should tell you something. They aren't worried about racial profiling, they have a plan.

Chas.
What can they possibly do? Is the amendment identical to Dutton?
I'm not putting that on a public forum.

Chas.
Is the language identical?
Yes
Thanks. That's what the Lt Governor's office stated to me.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:09 pm
by mr1337
Glockster wrote:Amend 11 tabled, 12 on deck.
Amendment 12 is only a thing because of some groups of people who think the Dutton amendment/amendment 9 are creating unlicensed open carry.

edit: Amendment 12 tabled.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:10 pm
by Glockster
Amend 12 tabled. Last amendment! Motion for 3rd reading!

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:10 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
Oi vey. Ellis.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:11 pm
by mr1337
Oh no. What is Ellis up to?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:11 pm
by K5GU
We all know now. Senator Ellis is afraid of a gun!

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:12 pm
by jamminbutter
What is Ellis planning by voting for open carry on third reading?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:12 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TXBO wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:Senator Huffman was just asked by Senator West if she would withdraw her amendment if Senator Huffines would withdraw his amendment. She said yes.... if Huffines would withdraw his, she would withdraw hers. Under further questioning, she concedes that failure to withdraw both amendments would force the bill into conference with the house, and possibly kill the bill.

HB910 is a good bill, AS IS, without further amendments.

I cannot support what Huffines is doing......... NOT necessarily because he's wrong on the issue (Oklahoma has a similar law)...... but because his tactic is threatening to sink the whole thing, and THAT is inexcusable. If you don't like what I've just said, Senator ELLISON has spoken in favor of Huffman's amendment precisely because it will open up a chance for him to filibuster the bill late in the session and kill it.

This is what happens when tyros play with political dynamite....... and Huffines is a tyro.
I find it odd that you vilify him and give Huffman a pass. My understanding is that the Huffine amendment is identical to Dutton amendment. If this is true, Ellison will not get another chance to kill it. It goes straight to Abbott.
Huffines caused this problem. I'm not at all happy with Huffman, but this Bill would have passed this morning had he not pulled this garbage.

Chas.
EXACTLY. I am not giving Huffman a pass. I have stated more than once that I do not agree with her. But, she is a better political animal than he is, and she was using his inexperience against him - and by extension, against CHL holders. If he had not doggedly pursued his poor defense of his own amendment as displayed by his ignorance of existing law, she would not have taken him apart.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:12 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Just shut up and vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chas.

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:12 pm
by Vol Texan
Did Ellis just say he would vote for 910?

Wonder what's up his sleeve?

Re: Sen. Huffines is killing HB910

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:12 pm
by Jasonw560
mr1337 wrote:Oh no. What is Ellis up to?
Something's rotten in the city of Austin.