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03Lightningrocks wrote:

TheArmedFarmer wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:LOL....you been paying much attention to his prices? Sorry if he is your buddy or something but the ammo sellers are all ripping folks off right now and that is a fact! He is the worst of the bunch. His prices of just gotten plain stupid.

It is simple economics; supply and demand. A seller should sell at the price that the market will handle. If his prices are too high, then he won't sell anything. Respectfully, calling him a thief because he, like almost everyone, is raising prices, is unwarranted.

Not in my opinion, it's not. He raised his prices three times the night of the election as the polls came in. Guess we see it two different ways.

While you might not like the way he does business. I can't see where he stole anything from anyone. Personally in these rough economic times if he can get the money he will get my admiration although probably not my business.

Liberty wrote:Personally in these rough economic times if he can get the money he will get my admiration although probably not my business.

I quit buying from ammoman when his Golden Tiger 7.62x39 hit $189 per thousand. Now it's $289 per thousand, and sold out!! I'm glad I finished stocking up on all my ammo needs over a year ago.

I just bought 1000 Rds Speer Lawman .40 165Gr for 29 cents a round. That's as cheap as walmart for WWB, plus no sales tax.

Plus, I bought 500 rounds of Speer Gold Dot .40 165Gr at 55 cents a rounds, while everyone else is selling it at over a dollar a round. He just got this in and raised his price, but it was still much cheaper than anyone else I could find that had it in stock.

Not much of a thief in the .40 S&W department, but he may be overpriced in other departments. I know for .380ACP he was way overpriced while he had it in stock, and 30.06 is overpriced as well. It pays to shop around....

MBguy wrote:It pays to shop around....

Yep, it does.

I've got 2000 rds of Wolf 7.62x39 enroute at $185/1000 shipped.

When 7.62x39 began its last round of price hikes, I found one stock number that Sportsmans Guide had yet to mark up, so I ordered 2000 rds.

Reply to all of their backorder messages and the order will remain open at the original price until shipped.

MBGuy wrote:I just bought 1000 Rds Speer Lawman .40 165Gr for 29 cents a round. That's as cheap as walmart for WWB, plus no sales tax.

Plus, I bought 500 rounds of Speer Gold Dot .40 165Gr at 55 cents a rounds, while everyone else is selling it at over a dollar a round. He just got this in and raised his price, but it was still much cheaper than anyone else I could find that had it in stock.

Not much of a thief in the .40 S&W department, but he may be overpriced in other departments. I know for .380ACP he was way overpriced while he had it in stock, and 30.06 is overpriced as well. It pays to shop around....

If your talking about ammo man, your numbers are off a bit. The ammo you claim you paid 29 cents a round for is actually 33.9 cents a round. Which is MORE than wwb.

Hey...just think...you only paid 40% more than it was two months ago. For all the guys coming to the defense of ammo-man....i was talking in general terms about all the ammo dealers online.Ammo man was just one example...wha????...no defenders for sportsmans paradise???? They are ripping folks off along with the rest of the online ammo thieves. they are sticking it to us good and you guys come off like you like it...great...keep getting ripped off. I suppose if I had been caught unprepared like some you fellers did, I would be thinking they were doing me a favor too. Just realize...you are getting ripped off.

Mike1951 wrote:

MBguy wrote:It pays to shop around....

Yep, it does.

I've got 2000 rds of Wolf 7.62x39 enroute at $185/1000 shipped.

When 7.62x39 began its last round of price hikes, I found one stock number that Sportsmans Guide had yet to mark up, so I ordered 2000 rds.

Reply to all of their backorder messages and the order will remain open at the original price until shipped.

I had the same situation. They keep sending me emails moving the back order out. I called them about the order and they said getting the same price was not guaranteed, but they would try. I am not holding my breath.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Mike1951 wrote:

MBguy wrote:It pays to shop around....

Yep, it does.

I've got 2000 rds of Wolf 7.62x39 enroute at $185/1000 shipped.

When 7.62x39 began its last round of price hikes, I found one stock number that Sportsmans Guide had yet to mark up, so I ordered 2000 rds.

Reply to all of their backorder messages and the order will remain open at the original price until shipped.

I had the same situation. They keep sending me emails moving the back order out. I called them about the order and they said getting the same price was not guaranteed, but they would try. I am not holding my breath.

Been doing this for years. They have never changed a price. Won't know on this order until delivered on 2/2.

Mike1951 wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Mike1951 wrote:

MBguy wrote:It pays to shop around....

Yep, it does.

I've got 2000 rds of Wolf 7.62x39 enroute at $185/1000 shipped.

When 7.62x39 began its last round of price hikes, I found one stock number that Sportsmans Guide had yet to mark up, so I ordered 2000 rds.

Reply to all of their backorder messages and the order will remain open at the original price until shipped.

I had the same situation. They keep sending me emails moving the back order out. I called them about the order and they said getting the same price was not guaranteed, but they would try. I am not holding my breath.

Been doing this for years. They have never changed a price. Won't know on this order until delivered on 2/2.

I hope your right, but the gal I talked to over there stopped short of saying it would happen. You are making me feel like I have a shot at it though... Mine is scheduled for 2/12. We shall see...they will earn my respect and business if they stick to the price.

They continued sending me backorders of this at $121, months after it had risen past $170.

Mike1951 wrote:They continued sending me backorders of this at $121, months after it had risen past $170.

Your making me sick with the memories....I can still remember paying under a hundred bucks per thousand rounds of the Chinese stuff. I still have some of that in the cans with the led seal around it. They are dated from 1968. Now I would be happy to see it under 200 again. I do keep sending the emails back saying to keep me on back order...so I have my fingers crossed.

A good deal of my 7.62x39 stash I paid $71/1000 and later $90/1000.

It hasn't been that long since Wolf .223 was $121/1000.

Two years ago, I bought 4,000 military .223 for $400.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

MBGuy wrote:I just bought 1000 Rds Speer Lawman .40 165Gr for 29 cents a round. That's as cheap as walmart for WWB, plus no sales tax.

Plus, I bought 500 rounds of Speer Gold Dot .40 165Gr at 55 cents a rounds, while everyone else is selling it at over a dollar a round. He just got this in and raised his price, but it was still much cheaper than anyone else I could find that had it in stock.

Not much of a thief in the .40 S&W department, but he may be overpriced in other departments. I know for .380ACP he was way overpriced while he had it in stock, and 30.06 is overpriced as well. It pays to shop around....

If your talking about ammo man, your numbers are off a bit. The ammo you claim you paid 29 cents a round for is actually 33.9 cents a round. Which is MORE than wwb.

Hey...just think...you only paid 40% more than it was two months ago. For all the guys coming to the defense of ammo-man....i was talking in general terms about all the ammo dealers online.Ammo man was just one example...wha????...no defenders for sportsmans paradise???? They are ripping folks off along with the rest of the online ammo thieves. they are sticking it to us good and you guys come off like you like it...great...keep getting ripped off. I suppose if I had been caught unprepared like some you fellers did, I would be thinking they were doing me a favor too. Just realize...you are getting ripped off.

Interesting that you think you've seen my credit card statement. I don't know where you're getting your numbers to calculate MY purchase, that I already even paid on my credit card. Maybe you're looking at his Cleanfire price of $339/1000, but I didn't get the cleanfire. I paid $299 for 1000 rounds, shipped, and he still has it at that price right now though it's out of stock. He's been in and out of stock of that particular round several times since before the election and has yet to raise his price on that round (Part Number #40SW-165GR-TMJ-1000). WWB at Walmart has been at $28/100 in Katy and $30/100 in Sealy for at least 4 months now as well.

I wasn't coming to anyone's defense, I know on some stuff he's over priced, but I paid what I said I paid. Last big ammo purchase for me was in February of 2008 when I paid the bargain price (then) of $22.50 for WWB 100 rounds when Bass Pro Shop had a 10% off all ammo sale. Their regular price back then for WWB was $25/100 rounds. Shortly after that everyone went up to $26ish then the current $30ish right before election time. So your two months is more like 10 months for my particular round. I just paid 30% more than that purchase on my recent purchase, not 40%.

Is it a ripoff when copper and lead prices have gone drastically down? Yes, we are being ripped off. Is it probably going to go up more and that's why we are purchasing? Yes, it probably is, but you won't lend us your crystal ball so the rest of us are left having to guess what the future in ammo prices are.

Never mind...it doesn't matter... I will just say...always remember...."Buyer Beware"

03Lightningrocks wrote:Never mind...it doesn't matter... I will just say...always remember...."Buyer Beware"

That was a fast edit there........

For other's sake:

http://www.speer-ammo.com/products/lawman_cf.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is cleanfire, for shooting in indoor ranges.

http://www.speer-ammo.com/products/lawman.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is what I got.

I agree, buyer beware/shop around/etc. The point is that for those of us that didn't have the funds a year or more ago, or couldn't tell the future, we are in the present and chances are the prices will continue to go up if Barry and Co. have their way.

I do agree with you we're getting ripped off, but it is a perfect example of supply and demand and they're all doing this to us, not just Ammoman. His Speer GoldDot that I bought was at 37 cents a round until he stocked up and sold it for 55 cents a round. I doubt he paid 50% more for it from his supplier, but it's still cheaper than anyone else I could find that had it in stock. Now for his rifle ammo in 30.06, I could find that cheaper just about anywhere without trying hard.

I used to work for a company that was then bought by Olin. Olin also owns Winchester Ammunition. At that time, Winchester Ammunition was their money losing division. I'm sure now they are taking advantage of the market to move it over to a profit making status.

Well, since you want to go ahead, the ammo he is selling is exactly the same.LOL....like I said...buyer beware.

Seriously, I don't care if you get hosed....That is why I posted never mind. I don't know what your trying to prove exactly. The very same ammo you "claim" you bought at 299 was selling for 199 a couple months ago. You sure showed him....and you sure taught me a lesson. Carry on...sounds to me like you have it well under control.


By the way...click on the pictures in his add....it is the same exact picture....LOL....