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Re: Have we made this CHL thing too complicated?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:40 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
lws380 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
red2000vette wrote:I almost want to make a laminated card listing the places I can and cannot carry in Texas, . . .
Don't laminate it yet. Governor Perry has stated that CHLs should be able to carry everywhere in the State and I know some folks who are going to work hard to make his opinion the law of the land. :thumbs2:

Chas.
He better hurry. IMHO he will be gone on the next election if he decided to run again. Then, Kay Bailey Hutchison can take over. :clapping: Just checked and Perry got 39.3 % of the votes in the last election. That means 60.7% voted for someone else. That is not a good sign. :shock:
A lot of people thought that in 2006 election and it didn't happen. It was a six way race with Republican and Republican-leaning votes split between Friedman and Keeton - Rylander - Strayhorn. Democrat Chris Bell only managed to get 29.78% of the vote.

The real question is whether Hutchison can carry the primary and I seriously doubt that. She's been pretty good on our votes, but she has some baggage. More importantly, the Republicans with money, even her chief supporter, don't want to to run against Perry. If she does, he gets the money and she doesn't.

Texas has never had a better Governor on the gun issue. In fact, we've only had two that supported us; Gov/President Bush and Gov. Perry. Perry has done two things I don't like, but I can say that about every politician I've ever supported. Perry has gone way out on political limbs supporting us and pro-gun bills. If gun owners are not loyal to a Governor who has done as much as Governor Perry has done for us, then we can't expect loyalty from anyone else.

Chas.
2006 Governor's Election wrote:
Governor
  • Rick Perry(I) REP 1,716,792 39.02%
    Chris Bell DEM 1,310,337 29.78%
    James Werner LIB 26,749 0.60%
    Richard "Kinky" Friedman IND 547,674 12.44%
    Carole Keeton Strayhorn IND 796,851 18.11%
    James "Patriot" Dillon W-I 713 0.01%
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Race Total 4,399,116

Re: Have we made this CHL thing too complicated?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:41 pm
by anygunanywhere
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Texas has never had a better Governor on the gun issue. In fact, we've only had two that supported us; Gov/President Bush and Gov. Perry. Perry has done two things I don't like, but I can say that about every politician I've ever supported. Perry has gone way out on political limbs supporting us and pro-gun bills. If gun owners are not loyal to a Governor who has done as much as Governor Perry has done for us, then we can't expect loyalty from anyone else.

Chas.
I know quite a few folks that are livid about the TTC and swear they will not vote for Perry. I really doubt any of us will stop the TTC.

I will focus my efforts on RKBA next election. I really think next year will be a bonus year for us if we all stick together and form one united front, no matter what the RKBA issue is and our personal feelingson the subject.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Have we made this CHL thing too complicated?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:05 pm
by lws380
He better hurry. IMHO he will be gone on the next election if he decided to run again. Then, Kay Bailey Hutchison can take over. :clapping: Just checked and Perry got 39.3 % of the votes in the last election. That means 60.7% voted for someone else. That is not a good sign. :shock:[/quote]
A lot of people thought that in 2006 election and it didn't happen. It was a six way race with Republican and Republican-leaning votes split between Friedman and Keeton - Rylander - Strayhorn. Democrat Chris Bell only managed to get 29.78% of the vote.

The real question is whether Hutchison can carry the primary and I seriously doubt that. She's been pretty good on our votes, but she has some baggage. More importantly, the Republicans with money, even her chief supporter, don't want to to run against Perry. If she does, he gets the money and she doesn't.

Texas has never had a better Governor on the gun issue. In fact, we've only had two that supported us; Gov/President Bush and Gov. Perry. Perry has done two things I don't like, but I can say that about every politician I've ever supported. Perry has gone way out on political limbs supporting us and pro-gun bills. If gun owners are not loyal to a Governor who has done as much as Governor Perry has done for us, then we can't expect loyalty from anyone else.

Chas.

I just think that if he is ever challenged by a viable candidate other than a self proclaimed Jewish Cowboy or One Tough Grandma, there may be a different outcome. Plus, the guy backed Rudy :headscratch , but that did not last long as we now know how that worked out for him.

Glad the post got the juices going as I thought it would.

Re: Have we made this CHL thing too complicated?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:44 pm
by lrb111
anygunanywhere wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Texas has never had a better Governor on the gun issue. In fact, we've only had two that supported us; Gov/President Bush and Gov. Perry. Perry has done two things I don't like, but I can say that about every politician I've ever supported. Perry has gone way out on political limbs supporting us and pro-gun bills. If gun owners are not loyal to a Governor who has done as much as Governor Perry has done for us, then we can't expect loyalty from anyone else.

Chas.
I know quite a few folks that are livid about the TTC and swear they will not vote for Perry. I really doubt any of us will stop the TTC.

I will focus my efforts on RKBA next election. I really think next year will be a bonus year for us if we all stick together and form one united front, no matter what the RKBA issue is and our personal feelingson the subject.

Anygunanywhere
I can agree. In fact, I hope we make enough progress to make our opposition have to back up, before they attempt to gain more lost ground. I welcome any RKBA legislation that gains us ground.

Re: Have we made this CHL thing too complicated?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:48 am
by aardwolf
lrb111 wrote:I can agree. In fact, I hope we make enough progress to make our opposition have to back up, before they attempt to gain more lost ground. I welcome any RKBA legislation that gains us ground.
That's where our side makes a lot of political mistakes. We need to start asking for things we don't expect to get. You know the anti-civil-rights groups do that so we need to ask for more too. Asking for more is a time honored strategy in negotiation. Let's set ourself up to negotiate a win instead of a loss.

If we ask for the sun and the moon, giving us the moon will seem a reasonable compromise in comparison.

Put the people who want to violate our civil rights on the defensive. Attack their immoral position.

Next year we need to write Mothers Day editorials about CHL by women to help KEEP MOM SAFE.

Re: Have we made this CHL thing too complicated?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:15 am
by bdickens
That was the whole point of the "Businesses should not be allowed to bar CHL" thread I started awhile back. If you aim for the stars and miss, you just might hit the moon.