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Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:13 pm
by JRG
Yes, I agree with that gun show statement. I was not able to get to the show until Sunday afternoon around 1:30 so it was slim pickens by then.

Joe

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:19 pm
by JRG
Carlson,

You didn't sell yours for enough. I stopped by the SAWS gunshop in Sunnyvale Friday and they were selling the LCP for $399. I declined to purchase, but it is a nice gun!

Joe

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:42 pm
by drw
Well, a few days ago I finally got the Ruger LCP out of my pocket and punched some holes in some paper. Here's the verdict:

I love the concealment factor of this handgun. It fits in my pocket just perfectly and it's so light, I hardly even know I'm carrying anything. I recently ordered a DeSantis "The Nemesis" pocket holster, and once that arrives I'll be carrying it in condition one all the time (B.U.G.)

As for the shooting, I really enjoyed it. I was getting consistent 3" groups at 7 yards, which is acceptable to me given the diminutive nature of this gun (I'm better with larger guns, like my XD45). The recoil, however, is quite strong. Since it's such a small gun, it really does pack a bit of a wallop. It's certainly nothing like a .357 Magnum, but still, it's much more than a semi-automatic 9mm. I can deal with it just fine, but my hand does feel sore after going through a few mags.

My wife, unfortunately, was grievously disappointed in the recoil. It was way too snappy for her. After she shot a magazine full of rounds, she handed the gun back to me and told me she didn't want to ever shoot it again. That's my biggest disappointment, as I was hoping she would love the gun and keep it for herself. So, the search for a smaller gun for her continues, and in the meantime, she's sticking with her much loved XD9.

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:57 pm
by Keith B
drw wrote: ....So, the search for a smaller gun for her continues, and in the meantime, she's sticking with her much loved XD9.
Dave,

Has she ever tried a Kahr PMx? I love my PM9 and the recoil is very manageable. If not that, maybe a small revolver with .38 +P?

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:07 pm
by drw
Keith B wrote:Has she ever tried a Kahr PMx? I love my PM9 and the recoil is very manageable. If not that, maybe a small revolver with .38 +P?
We keep a Kahr P9 in the center console of our minivan, and she loves to shoot that little gun, but the spring is so tight, it's difficult for her to cycle it. Her hands just aren't as strong as most women and so cycling a semi is difficult for her.

I have a Ruger SP101 that I've fired with .357 magnum. It kicks like a feral mule. :) Are you suggesting something like that with .38 +P?

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:54 pm
by Keith B
drw wrote:
Keith B wrote:Has she ever tried a Kahr PMx? I love my PM9 and the recoil is very manageable. If not that, maybe a small revolver with .38 +P?
We keep a Kahr P9 in the center console of our minivan, and she loves to shoot that little gun, but the spring is so tight, it's difficult for her to cycle it. Her hands just aren't as strong as most women and so cycling a semi is difficult for her.

I have a Ruger SP101 that I've fired with .357 magnum. It kicks like a feral mule. :) Are you suggesting something like that with .38 +P?
I would suggest lighter unless weight is not an issue. The SP101 is about 25oz as the frame is heavier and built for the .357 load. The S&W Ladysmith 642LS is a great choice. It weighs in at 14.5 ounces and a couple of ladies I know that had issues shooting the P3AT and the LCP have loved the way the 642 handles.

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:04 pm
by drw
Interesting. Carlson1 currently has a S&W 624 J Frame. Is that the same gun?

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 20&t=16663

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:22 pm
by Keith B
drw wrote:Interesting. Carlson1 currently has a S&W 624 J Frame. Is that the same gun?

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 20&t=16663
Same gun, except the LS has a titanium cylinder vs. the stainless. Only .5 oz difference, so would probably not be noticable.

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:09 pm
by drw
Thank you! If it's still available from Carl I'll pick it up and see how the wife likes it!

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:28 pm
by mac_attack
thanks for the review, drw.
drw wrote:Thank you! If it's still available from Carl I'll pick it up and see how the wife likes it!
and dont forget to let me know if ya'll get together around here :bigear:

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:34 pm
by drw
Will do! :cheers2:

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:20 pm
by Mike1951
drw wrote:We keep a Kahr P9 in the center console of our minivan, and she loves to shoot that little gun, but the spring is so tight, it's difficult for her to cycle it. Her hands just aren't as strong as most women and so cycling a semi is difficult for her.
I recall in Kahr's early days, they had a lighter springed version of the K9 (I think) that was easier to retract the slide but was not recommended for +P.

Also, Beretta used to sell a steel .380 that had a tip-up barrel so that it wasn't necessary to draw the slide. Might could find one of those. We bought one for my sister-in-law because of her rheumatoid arthritis.

Re: Brand New Ruger LCP - DFW, TX

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:34 pm
by Mike1951
Nevermind about the Kahr. It was called the Lady Kahr.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... 22919/pg_3
However, Moon learned a lot of customers preferred standard-pressure 9mm rounds or had to carry the feeble subsonic ammo issued by their agencies. He also discovered that some female users found the slide spring too strong to manipulate. He designed a model using a lighter recoil spring. This was originally known as the "Lady Kahr" model. No more than 2,000 were made, says Harris, before the company went back to using standard springs.
Still, if the lighter spring was the only difference and one would forego +P, could you just use a lighter recoil spring?