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WildBill wrote:

AEA wrote:I too would probably carry concealed the majority of the time, but the option would certainly be nice.

If I were to carry openly it would probably be my Wilson Combat Protector in a Hand Tooled Deputy Marshall Rig by
Kirkpatrick Leather of Laredo, TX. I would get the holster custom made similar to what's shown but with the trigger covered.
Probably only used for BBQ's and other Social gatherings.

I'd invite you over just to see your rig!

I agree!

drw wrote:

NcongruNt wrote:The places I would OC were it made legal would generally be places like family property and land.

It's already perfectly legal to OC on your privately owned property.

But not at my father's house, my brother's ranch, or any other location that I myself do not own.

NcongruNt wrote:

drw wrote:

NcongruNt wrote:The places I would OC were it made legal would generally be places like family property and land.

It's already perfectly legal to OC on your privately owned property.

But not at my father's house, my brother's ranch, or any other location that I myself do not own.

So does that mean that when I open carried last December while hunting on my friend's deer lease up in Jack County (a long hike in from the nearest road), I was breaking the law? (Not that I care one whit or wouldn't do it again...) Or are you saying that your family members are unsympathetic to OC on their land? Just seeking clarification.

I always OC on my land, my families land, and ALWAYS on my deer lease....anytime I'm out in the brush I'm open carrying...

The Annoyed Man wrote:So does that mean that when I open carried last December while hunting on my friend's deer lease up in Jack County (a long hike in from the nearest road), I was breaking the law? (Not that I care one whit or wouldn't do it again...) Or are you saying that your family members are unsympathetic to OC on their land? Just seeking clarification.

You were hunting so you were legal. But if you were at that friend's house for his July 4th BBQ, open carry is illegal even with written permission.

I never understood why Taco Cabana's property rights give them the legal power to prohibit concealed carry but my property rights don't give me the legal power to allow my friends and family to open carry on my property.

I find this a bit confusing in that you can open carry at your place of employment if the owner says OK (I.E. Gun Shops).
So why is it illegal to OC on your relatives property with their permission?

One being indoors and one being outside? I think not.

Example, OC in a Junkyard that you work at and have owners permission.

But, I believe that if/when OC is actually passed in Texas, there will be some sort of "reasonable restrictions" that will clarify all of this better than what we have now. Hopefully, they will get it right the first time, such as "OC legal for any place you have a legal right to be armed under existing carry restrictions".

AEA wrote: But, I believe that if/when OC is actually passed in Texas, there will be some sort of "reasonable restrictions" that will clarify all of this better than what we have now. Hopefully, they will get it right the first time, such as "OC legal for any place you have a legal right to be armed under existing carry restrictions".

That's not how it typically works. The pattern seems to be get a flawed law passed .. and tweak it the next few terms. There is some hope I guess. It looks like they got the "Castle Doctrine" right the first time, but it also was really more of a tweak than it was a major legal change.

Funny how people want to hang onto high riding concealment holsters for open carry when draw times are faster and control is better lower down:


Bianchi 99A Deluxe Border Patrol Leather Duty Holster

http://www.gunblast.com/WBell_PoliceHolsterHist.htm

NcongruNt wrote:

drw wrote:

NcongruNt wrote:The places I would OC were it made legal would generally be places like family property and land.

It's already perfectly legal to OC on your privately owned property.

But not at my father's house, my brother's ranch, or any other location that I myself do not own.

So I'm breaking the law when I allow my dad or a friend to carry his handgun on my property for an afternoon of shooting? That doesn't make any sense. It's my property and I can choose who to allow to carry on it.

I would use my HK P7 or Beretta 92.

drw wrote:So I'm breaking the law when I allow my dad or a friend to carry his handgun on my property for an afternoon of shooting? That doesn't make any sense. It's my property and I can choose who to allow to carry on it.

No, because you'd be engaged in a legitimate sporting activity using the handgun.

§ 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
(...)
(4) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other
sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is
conducted, or is en route between the premises and the actor's
residence, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;

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Funny how people want to hang onto high riding concealment holsters for open carry when draw times are faster and control is better lower down:

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Can we go Mall Ninja with thigh holsters then? UHHmmm, Lara Croft.....sorry got distracted.

Or, them cool double cross draw shoulder holsters!

NONAPPLICABILITY.
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
(...)
(4) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other
sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is
conducted, or is en route between the premises and the actor's
residence, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;

And if you're going fishing in a motorboat? How about a canoe?

Been here before and done this, but it was never satisfactorily resolved. What is common use? Is that commonly used in the activity by the average Joe, or a handgun that you yourself commonly use while fishing? I always take a handgun fishing to shoot the inevitable water moccasin or the errant wild hog if I have to go ashore. I'll tell you what. Texas makes it's laws too complicated. Approaching the absurdity of California if you ask me. But then, you didn't. End of rant.