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Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:32 pm
by KaiserB
Carrots wrote:APPROVED
& able to collect tomorrow. THE best Christmas present.
Congrats... sounds like all your paperwork finally caught up with your status.
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:40 pm
by Carrots
Indeed. I now have all of my official boxes ticked, and the next job is finding a job. Hopefully an English exile will be on somebody’s wanted list

Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:59 pm
by Stupid
From the NICS reply, it sounds like NICS had you under non-immigrant alien, such as student, visitor, exchange scholar etc, hence the denial. After they've updated your status to GC status, you are OK to go. Not sure your status before applying for GC. Personally I don't think 90 days have anything to do with it; it's just coincident.
Get CHL and it will save you a lot more trouble. Even then, some FFL will insist to check NICS, which sometimes may cause you some delay.
My FFL at NW Houston only charges $10. PM me if you need the information.
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:39 pm
by Oldgringo
Welcome to our shores and to this forum.
I can't help but wonder how long it would take a colonist to get a handgun in "jolly old blighty"?

Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:14 pm
by Carrots
Of course I cannot be sure, but I think it
does have to do with the zeroing of ones residency clock once a physical G/C is issued. I got that in hand and therefore was a legal resident and technically A-OK to purchase back in Sep. I also had documents proving I had been here over 90 days, had a state driving licence, my ssn # etc. Officially I was 'here for good' when I was first denied even though I could meet all of the listed requirements. I have always been here under an immigrant visa and was never here as a student, worker, visitor &c and given the comments by other folks here about their initial problems and the way that this has played out in my case I'm pretty happy with the reasoning discussed as to the hold up. Anyway hopefully this won't be something that I'll need to worry about in the future. My CHL paperwork was filed with Austin a few days ago and I can't see myself making another purchase before that turns up (April maybe?). Nevertheless $10 is twice as good as $20 and so I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. In this case my man certainly earnt the extra though IMO
PS No chance at all re a purchase back in England. Certainly glad to be here, you folks just need some decent Ale and my life would be complete

Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:37 pm
by Stupid
Like I said, even with CHL, some FFLs still check NICS for all GC holders, which may cause some delay for you. just keep that in mind. I learned it in a hard way - twice. This is why I only deal with my FFL now and buy online.
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:57 pm
by Carrots
Ok, understood. I bought this one online and I expect that's what I'll do in the future (I saved over $400 by not buying over the counter inc the no sales tax saving). Shame really, I wouldn't have minded showing my face in the local gun shop now and again (but not enough to swallow that sort of markup!)
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:42 am
by MIG33
[quote="AndyC"]Rayden is correct - I had the same thing happen to me. The 90-day residence clock is reset to zero upon issuance of the GC (no matter how long you lived in Texas beforehand) - just one of those irritating little bureaucratic annoyances we have to live with for now.
Hello.I am new to this forum.
Could you please tell where did you get this info from (...The 90-day residence clock is reset to zero upon issuance of the GC...).
And as I understood it is OK just to reapply after 90 has elapsed?
Please advice.
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:04 pm
by Jumping Frog
AndyC wrote:That's what they told me at the gun store - whether it's correct technically or not, I couldn't say - but I filled out the paperwork again more than 90 days after the date of issuance on my GC and it went through, so who knows

IIRC, there was a very recent change (3 months or less) in how the ATF interpreted non-citizen purchases. How they handled you back then may be very different from how they would handle it now.
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:27 pm
by speedsix
...they also check the ICE database for non-citizens...
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/g ... s-overview" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
...good that TX CHL exempts us from NICS...a non-citizen who's gotten a CHL wouldn't be bumped back when he gets his green card because they wouldn't be calling NICS on purchases, right???
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:26 pm
by alvins
this thread is like 4 years old?
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:42 pm
by speedsix
...this part isn't...

Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:31 am
by MIG33
Jumping Frog wrote:AndyC wrote:That's what they told me at the gun store - whether it's correct technically or not, I couldn't say - but I filled out the paperwork again more than 90 days after the date of issuance on my GC and it went through, so who knows

IIRC, there was a very recent change (3 months or less) in how the ATF interpreted non-citizen purchases. How they handled you back then may be very different from how they would handle it now.
Do you know what kind of changes and where to read about them?
Re: NICS denial for new permanent residents?
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:45 am
by ghostrider
Do you know what kind of changes and where to read about them?
there should be a memo on atf's web site, but I've seen it posted elsewhere. Basically, it says that showing proof of 90 days
residency (usually utility bills) is no longer required.