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Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:49 pm
by tfrazier
(Note: The following is speculation in jest and by no means is intended to disparage the honor of the actual officer referred to in this thread)

With my luck it'll turn out he was in the back stock room with somebody else's wife and left his stuff in a hurry when they heard hubby arriving. I won't be able to show up in the same thread as Nitro for months. :oops:

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:54 pm
by Oldgringo
tfrazier wrote:(Note: The following is speculation in jest and by no means is intended to disparage the honor of the actual officer referred to in this thread)

With my luck it'll turn out he was in the back stock room with somebody else's wife and left his stuff in a hurry when they heard hubby arriving. I won't be able to show up in the same thread as Nitro for months. :oops:

Though I never saw this episode on DRAGNET, I'll bet stranger things have happened...haven't they?

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:02 pm
by bryang
I have to vote for mercy. We don't know the whole story of what happen. The scenario of the bathroom is the only thing that really makes sense and how many have made that mistake....at least he didn't shoot the toilet. Besides, can you imagine how he felt when he found his gun gone and realized what had happen!! :shock:

I am sure he is beating himself up more than what the DPS may have done to him. :grumble

-geo

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:30 am
by srothstein
nitrogen wrote:We already know he broke a law.
Actually, I don't know that he broke a law. What law was broken? And before you say 46.13, I must point out that this law is not broken until a child actually has access to the firearm. And since the articles say it was found by a father and son, we don't know that the law was truly broken.


And for all of those wondering where it was left, I would bet it was in his shopping cart. People leave all sorts of things in the cart when they get their bags out, especially if they empty the cart at the check out but pick up the bags to walk out. I have left my checkbook in the cart, and I have lost count of the number of women's purses I have taken in like that. I don't know too many Dollar General stores with public restrooms.


And jbirds, don't worry about the mistakes. One day, after the statute of limitations expires, I will tell you about some of the dumber things I have done and not gotten caught at (yet). Some of the ones I did get caught at are also pretty good.

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:29 am
by jbirds1210
srothstein wrote:And jbirds, don't worry about the mistakes. One day, after the statute of limitations expires, I will tell you about some of the dumber things I have done and not gotten caught at (yet). Some of the ones I did get caught at are also pretty good.
I'll supply the coffee. Be safe.

Jason

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:54 pm
by Liberty
jbirds1210 wrote:
srothstein wrote:And jbirds, don't worry about the mistakes. One day, after the statute of limitations expires, I will tell you about some of the dumber things I have done and not gotten caught at (yet). Some of the ones I did get caught at are also pretty good.
I'll supply the coffee. Be safe.

Jason
I promise to be a good listener.

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:30 am
by KD5NRH
tfrazier wrote:I just don't see enough appreciation for these guys who are literally out there being spit on, getting slapped, shot at, cussed out, vomited on, etc. etc. etc for about 35k a year to balance out the instantaneous piling on of the public wanting a pound of flesh from them every time they make a mistake.
So, what you're saying is that they're overpaid? After all, the guy at the Whataburger driver through window gets all that and more for a lot less money.

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:58 pm
by tfrazier
KD5NRH wrote:
tfrazier wrote:I just don't see enough appreciation for these guys who are literally out there being spit on, getting slapped, shot at, cussed out, vomited on, etc. etc. etc for about 35k a year to balance out the instantaneous piling on of the public wanting a pound of flesh from them every time they make a mistake.
So, what you're saying is that they're overpaid? After all, the guy at the Whataburger driver through window gets all that and more for a lot less money.
That's about the most ridiculous response I've seen anywhere on this forum to date.

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:25 pm
by bryang
"srothstein"
And for all of those wondering where it was left, I would bet it was in his shopping cart . People leave all sorts of things in the cart when they get their bags out, especially if they empty the cart at the check out but pick up the bags to walk out. I have left my checkbook in the cart, and I have lost count of the number of women's purses I have taken in like that. I don't know too many Dollar General stores with public restrooms.
Well, it looks like you were right, Steve, regarding where the gun was left at.... :tiphat:
No Charges for Leaving Gun in Store

Updated: Thursday, 30 Apr 2009, 10:26 PM CDT
Published : Thursday, 30 Apr 2009, 10:26 PM CDT

Pflugerville Police say the DPS trooper who left his gun in a Dollar General shopping cart will not face charges. The gun was left in a bag along with the trooper’s badge and ID.

The case was presented to a prosecutor but the charges were not pursued due to a lack of evidence.
-geo

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:35 am
by KD5NRH
tfrazier wrote:
KD5NRH wrote:So, what you're saying is that they're overpaid? After all, the guy at the Whataburger driver through window gets all that and more for a lot less money.
That's about the most ridiculous response I've seen anywhere on this forum to date.
Then you don't know the meaning of the word ridiculous. Studies have shown that police do not have the horrible, dangerous job they claim to, and that several lower paid professions are far more dangerous.

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:34 am
by tfrazier
Please cite said studies. I would be interested in reading the "studies" that prove I was not actually experiencing what I thought I was experiencing in real life for eight years and seeing what reliable sources they come from.

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:16 am
by Crossfire
KD5NRH wrote:
tfrazier wrote:
KD5NRH wrote:So, what you're saying is that they're overpaid? After all, the guy at the Whataburger driver through window gets all that and more for a lot less money.
That's about the most ridiculous response I've seen anywhere on this forum to date.
Then you don't know the meaning of the word ridiculous. Studies have shown that police do not have the horrible, dangerous job they claim to, and that several lower paid professions are far more dangerous.
:nono: personal attacks

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:34 am
by Keith B
KD5NRH wrote:
tfrazier wrote:
KD5NRH wrote:So, what you're saying is that they're overpaid? After all, the guy at the Whataburger driver through window gets all that and more for a lot less money.
That's about the most ridiculous response I've seen anywhere on this forum to date.
Then you don't know the meaning of the word ridiculous. Studies have shown that police do not have the horrible, dangerous job they claim to, and that several lower paid professions are far more dangerous.
As Crossfire stated, no personal attacks guys.

And while a police officers job may not be the most dangerous of those out there, it was number 10 nationwide in 2007. (BTW, WhataBurger drive-through window guy or Stop 'n Rob Clerk didn't make the list, but garbage collector did.)

Image

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:45 am
by frazzled
I just don't see enough appreciation for these guys who are literally out there being spit on, getting slapped, shot at, cussed out, vomited on, etc. etc. etc for about 35k a year to balance out the instantaneous piling on of the public wanting a pound of flesh from them every time they make a mistake.
:iagree:
Word. :txflag: :tiphat:

Re: DPS Trooper Not Charged for Leaving Gun

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:54 am
by seamusTX
Being a police officer is not the most dangerous job in the world (that might be President of the United States, with nearly a 10% mortality rate due to violent crime in an average career of 5 years).

However, if you look beyond death on the job, LEOs have high rates of disability (mostly due to vehicle crashes) and mental health problems due to stress.

Given the high level of physical, legal, and moral risks, it's not a job I would take at twice the going rate.

- Jim