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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:57 am
by Diode
WNallG30 wrote:I propose that from now on, laws can only be written in yes or no form. Yes you can, no you can't. Who's with me? ;-)
I'll second that! But what will the Lawyers do with all that free time?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:31 pm
by KD5NRH
Diode wrote:
WNallG30 wrote:I propose that from now on, laws can only be written in yes or no form. Yes you can, no you can't. Who's with me? ;-)
I'll second that! But what will the Lawyers do with all that free time?
Get jobs?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:37 pm
by revjen45
In the final analysis, being found not guilty after expending you life savings and taking out a second mprtgage to pay the lawyers hardly counts as a win. Remember- when it comes to the legal industry the one who prevails is the one who can pay the shysters to dance and belch the longest (sorry Charles- I count you as distinguished barrister, not a shyster). Who has more money than the Federal Govt (besides God)? Paying one lawyer would bankrupt you, and they have legions of them, and when they need more money they just steal it from the peons through taxation. Also, it doesn't matter what the law says. You have to prove yourself innocent at $300+/hr. and the law means whatever some Roland Freisler clone in a black robe says it means. It would be like opposing a Chinese human wave charge with a muzzle loader.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:28 pm
by txinvestigator
revjen45 wrote:In the final analysis, being found not guilty after expending you life savings and taking out a second mprtgage to pay the lawyers hardly counts as a win. Remember- when it comes to the legal industry the one who prevails is the one who can pay the shysters to dance and belch the longest (sorry Charles- I count you as distinguished barrister, not a shyster). Who has more money than the Federal Govt (besides God)? Paying one lawyer would bankrupt you, and they have legions of them, and when they need more money they just steal it from the peons through taxation. Also, it doesn't matter what the law says. You have to prove yourself innocent at $300+/hr. and the law means whatever some Roland Freisler clone in a black robe says it means. It would be like opposing a Chinese human wave charge with a muzzle loader.
Actually, living through a deadly force encounter is a win. At least in my book it is. My getting involved in a DF encounter would be the only way it would be known I was carrying.

I also disagree with you about the having to prove my innocence. It works the other way around.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:43 pm
by TxFire
I'll second it. Motion carried.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:02 pm
by 64zebra
I'll 3rd it lol

In the post offices here the usual sign showing a snubbie X'ed out is all the way at the counter 30ft inside the bldg. And everyone take a close look at these signs (as my chl instructor showed us)...they conveniently cut off the code and leave off part d) about the lawful carrying part, which is stated earlier in this thread. I just happened to have this discussion again with my chl instructor. We're going to keep looking and I'll darn sure post here when we find some answers.
We both think its ok since we would be lawfully carrying.
I agree with txinvestigator....I'd hate to get caught up in someone going postal and not survive.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:18 pm
by one eyed fatman
txinvestigator wrote:As I have written here before; I am no attorney, but I read the laws and do the best I can to follow to the letter. I don't read the law to suit me, but I try to read to the middle.

In reading the law I believe I am perfectly legal to carry into a US Post Office. The only way that anyone will know I am carrying is if I am involved in a deadly force encounter. In that case, assuming I survive, I believe I will have the law on my side.
Now this is the kind of post I like to read. A little bit of law and a whole lot of common sense. Thank you txinvestigator.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:49 am
by Diode
one eyed fatman wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:As I have written here before; I am no attorney, but I read the laws and do the best I can to follow to the letter. I don't read the law to suit me, but I try to read to the middle.

In reading the law I believe I am perfectly legal to carry into a US Post Office. The only way that anyone will know I am carrying is if I am involved in a deadly force encounter. In that case, assuming I survive, I believe I will have the law on my side.
Now this is the kind of post I like to read. A little bit of law and a whole lot of common sense. Thank you txinvestigator.
He does have a way with plain old common sense and logic. TX your a good man!

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:53 am
by kw5kw
Diode wrote:He does have a way with plain old common sense and logic. TX your a good man!
+1 and 1000 :grin:

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:28 am
by 1TallTXn
Diode wrote: He does have a way with plain old common sense and logic. TX your a good man!
Is it possible to promote this kind of guy into political office? or are there too many idiots already in place that would feel threatened by logic?