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Re: Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:46 am
by Liberty
03Lightningrocks wrote:Skiprr wrote:Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
DPS: 48,000 Applications Received From January To May...
DPS received about 48,600 applications from January to May, compared to 62,000 during all of last year, the Amarillo Globe-News reported Saturday.
First off, the 2008 data the Globe-News is quoting are incorrect. Not counting instructor licenses (1,147 of those were processed), DPS issued 73,090 licenses in 2008, and denied 447, for a total of 73,537 actually processed.
Second, turn the clock back one additional year. In 2007, again not counting instructors, DPS issued 90,867 licenses, and denied 392, for a total processed of 91,259. We can't know what the application workload looked like in 2007--meaning whether or not most of those license requests came in the first half of the year or not--but my bet is that more typically come in during the first three quarters than among the holidays in the fourth. We'll see how how that 48,000 number plays out come end-of-year statistics for 2009. Bottom line though, no matter how you stack it, the current "surge" is not a massive one when compared to 2007 application volumes.
WOW!!! That is some interesting information. I wonder what went wrong in 2008 that they could not keep up?
Ike?
Re: Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:53 am
by 03Lightningrocks
Liberty wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:Skiprr wrote:Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
DPS: 48,000 Applications Received From January To May...
DPS received about 48,600 applications from January to May, compared to 62,000 during all of last year, the Amarillo Globe-News reported Saturday.
First off, the 2008 data the Globe-News is quoting are incorrect. Not counting instructor licenses (1,147 of those were processed), DPS issued 73,090 licenses in 2008, and denied 447, for a total of 73,537 actually processed.
Second, turn the clock back one additional year. In 2007, again not counting instructors, DPS issued 90,867 licenses, and denied 392, for a total processed of 91,259. We can't know what the application workload looked like in 2007--meaning whether or not most of those license requests came in the first half of the year or not--but my bet is that more typically come in during the first three quarters than among the holidays in the fourth. We'll see how how that 48,000 number plays out come end-of-year statistics for 2009. Bottom line though, no matter how you stack it, the current "surge" is not a massive one when compared to 2007 application volumes.
WOW!!! That is some interesting information. I wonder what went wrong in 2008 that they could not keep up?
Ike?
Initially, I thought the same thing but there were some pretty lengthy delays even before Ike. I know Harris county got some real bad delays after Ike. What about the rest of the state and what about before Ike? true story...my buddy and his son took the CHL class in October. Both live in Grayson county. Both are from a small city called Westminister. Both received CHL's within five weeks. I could not believe it!!! I made him show it to me...LOL. Maybe the small town/small county connection made back ground checks quicker. My son, took his class in Harris county, even though he lived here when he took the class, his CHL took almost 6 months...with the only delay being the Harris county connection, according to the delay letter. Funny, why would the Ike storm delay an application for a person who did not live in Harris county, but took his CHL class there? My guess was that stacks of CHL apps from Harris County were being tossed to the side after they came up with the Ike excuse. One will never know but I have trouble believing Ike was the real cause in most delay scenarios. Delays were bad, even at the beginning of the year.
Re: Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:19 am
by Drewthetexan
usa1 wrote:KFP wrote: I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the oval office when Obama is briefed on the impact that he has had on the gun industry.
you and me both

No you don't.
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Re: Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:19 pm
by USA1
Drewthetexan wrote:usa1 wrote:KFP wrote: I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the oval office when Obama is briefed on the impact that he has had on the gun industry.
you and me both

No you don't.
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would be the ultimate insult to be killed by
him
Re: Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:34 pm
by JPGIII
If only that fly had right to carry.
Re: Concealed Weapons Applications Surge
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:46 pm
by Captain Matt
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