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03Lightningrocks wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Purplehood wrote: You have never tried to carry in Japan, have you?

One time I had a skip on a JP warrant for a hot check (under $50) writer. I needed to go to Mexico to apprehend the mope. I was going to have Harold Koh argue for giving me UN jurisdiction, but I got Dog Chapman to go after him instead. Dog worked with the (Quintana Roo) State Judicial Police and the Federales and they delivered him to my custody at DFW.

Your joking, right?

Well, yeah. But I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night...

-Dog Chapman fans will know he's not welcome in Mexico after grabbing a serial rapist there and bringing him back to California.
-Also he's a convicted felon, therefore his aversion to firearms. Not to mention Hawaii ain't exactly handing out gun permits.
-State Judicial Police in Mexico are often suspected of being corrupt (not all are) and they don't like to work with the Federal Police.
-Harold Koh, State Department Counsel isn't likely to be taking a pro-gun stance given his views on incorporating International Law into US judicial thought. Frightening to me given that it has no Constitutional basis, and the goons that make up the UN.
-At least I managed to get a CHL Badge and Post Office carry into one post! For that I deserve medal, or at least a CHL badge!



OK I am really cracking up....but I think you will find 90% of my posts contributory and thoughtful.

ScottDLS wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

Purplehood wrote: You have never tried to carry in Japan, have you?

One time I had a skip on a JP warrant for a hot check (under $50) writer. I needed to go to Mexico to apprehend the mope. I was going to have Harold Koh argue for giving me UN jurisdiction, but I got Dog Chapman to go after him instead. Dog worked with the (Quintana Roo) State Judicial Police and the Federales and they delivered him to my custody at DFW.

Your joking, right?

Well, yeah. But I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night...

-Dog Chapman fans will know he's not welcome in Mexico after grabbing a serial rapist there and bringing him back to California.
-Also he's a convicted felon, therefore his aversion to firearms. Not to mention Hawaii ain't exactly handing out gun permits.
-State Judicial Police in Mexico are often suspected of being corrupt (not all are) and they don't like to work with the Federal Police.
-Harold Koh, State Department Counsel isn't likely to be taking a pro-gun stance given his views on incorporating International Law into US judicial thought. Frightening to me given that it has no Constitutional basis, and the goons that make up the UN.
-At least I managed to get a CHL Badge and Post Office carry into one post! For that I deserve medal, or at least a CHL badge!



OK I am really cracking up....but I think you will find 90% of my posts contributory and thoughtful.

Just making sure....

ScottDLS wrote:I am in constant state of alert...eyes darting from left to right, scanning for potential terrorists and other threats. I have AR-15 rifles strategically placed throughout my house, all with quick sight optics on a Picatinny rail and flash hider+bayo lugs w/ issue bayonet on each one. I prefer side by side 30rd mags w/ metal clip holding them together.

I have a SIG P226 in a cross draw shoulder rig, and a .357 Ruger SP101 on my right ankle. If I sense someone approaching me aggressively, I shout STOP! and use the palm forward motion w/ my non-gun hand. Depending on the "perp's" reaction after that, I may have to escalate. I am highly trained in Brazilian Jujitsu. Generally, I carry zip-ties in my back pocket for binding a non-cooperative perp.

I usually wear a CHL badge and CHL license holder on a neck strap. When I confront, I casually pull the CHL creds out of my shirt pocket and "clear" my sport coat to show the cross draw straps, but not my SIG.

Did I mention that I'm also a Bail Enforcement Agent and have the right to carry weapons throughout the world due to the Taylor v. Taintor, 83 U.S. 366 (1872) ruling?

Challenge me and my mental alertness now will you...?!!!

Uhmm...Wow...just saying...

I am not sure what alert state I would be considered. I don't freak out at every noise I hear. I don't take a shower with my gun. I don't walk around afraid that danger lies behind every corner. I don't lie in bed at night afraid that someone is going to break into my house. I don't have a plan of how to shoot someone that is running from my house or even breaking into my car. Quite frankly, I am not much afraid of anything life throws at me. I can go from condition "who cares" to red alert in about 1/1000th of a second, but live my life without fear. I think the bad guys win if we allow them to make us act as if we are in a war zone. I may just be spoiled from living in an area that is relatively crime free. We don't have bad guys hiding behind every rock in the North Dallas/Plano area. I take normal precautions such as locking my doors. My hair does stand up for a second if a stranger get's in my space and I relax or get nasty after determining why. If in a restaurant and see certain profiles come in, I watch them for a few seconds to determine if they are up to no good or just up to having dinner.

I think I may be a condition green...LOL....maybe yellow. Definitely not orange.

03Lightningrocks wrote:I am not sure what alert state I would be considered. I don't freak out at every noise I hear. I don't take a shower with my gun. I don't walk around afraid that danger lies behind every corner. I don't lie in bed at night afraid that someone is going to break into my house. I don't have a plan of how to shoot someone that is running from my house or even breaking into my car. Quite frankly, I am not much afraid of anything life throws at me. I can go from condition "who cares" to red alert in about 1/1000th of a second, but live my life without fear. I think the bad guys win if we allow them to make us act as if we are in a war zone. I may just be spoiled from living in an area that is relatively crime free. We don't have bad guys hiding behind every rock in the North Dallas/Plano area. I take normal precautions such as locking my doors. My hair does stand up for a second if a stranger get's in my space and I relax or get nasty after determining why. If in a restaurant and see certain profiles come in, I watch them for a few seconds to determine if they are up to no good or just up to having dinner.

I think I may be a condition green...LOL....maybe yellow. Definitely not orange.

Your description is definitely Jeff Cooper's condition yellow - Relaxed Alert. That is the state we should all be in unless something triggers an escalation to Orange or Red

Here are the four conditions:

White - Unaware and unprepared. If attacked in Condition White, the only thing that may save you is the inadequacy or ineptitude of your attacker. When confronted by something nasty, your reaction will probably be "Oh my God! This can't be happening to me."

Yellow - Relaxed alert. No specific threat situation. Your mindset is that "today could be the day I may have to defend myself." You are simply aware that the world is a potentially unfriendly place and that you are prepared to defend yourself, if necessary. You use your eyes and ears, and realize that "I may have to SHOOT today." You don't have to be armed in this state, but if you are armed you should be in Condition Yellow. You should always be in Yellow whenever you are in unfamiliar surroundings or among people you don't know. You can remain in Yellow for long periods, as long as you are able to "Watch your six." (In aviation 12 o'clock refers to the direction in front of the aircraft's nose. Six o'clock is the blind spot behind the pilot.) In Yellow, you are "taking in" surrounding information in a relaxed but alert manner, like a continuous 360 degree radar sweep. As Cooper put it, "I might have to shoot."

Orange - Specific alert. Something is not quite right and has gotten your attention. Your radar has picked up a specific alert. You shift your primary focus to determine if there is a threat (but you do not drop your six). Your mindset shifts to "I may have to shoot HIM today." In Condition Orange, you set a mental trigger: "If that goblin does 'x', I will need to stop him." Your pistol usually remains holstered in this state. Staying in Orange can be a bit of a mental strain, but you can stay in it for as long as you need to. If the threat proves to be nothing, you shift back to Condition Yellow. Cooper described this as "I might have to shoot HIM," referring to the specific target which has caused the escalation in alert status.

Red - Condition Red is fight. Your mental trigger (established back in Condition Orange) has been tripped. If "X" happens I will shoot that person.

Too bad DHS had to complicate things.

03Lightningrocks wrote: I may just be spoiled from living in an area that is relatively crime free. We don't have bad guys hiding behind every rock in the North Dallas/Plano area.

i'm just the opposite .

living in Houston all my life has conditioned me to think there are bad guys behind every rock .
we locked everything down .
now that i live in a less crime ridden area outside of Houston , i still have my same outlook .

sometimes my neighbors think i'm overly obsessive with security .
you wouldn't believe how many people leave their garage doors up all day and into the night .

The guy on the end of my street just came to let me know someone stole his bicycle out of his garage. He left it open for about 15 minutes....

the other day a lady 2 doors over came jogging past . i told her that her she forgot to close her garage door .
she said "oh , i just leave it up since i'm only gone for about 20 minutes "

USA1 wrote:the other day a lady 2 doors over came jogging past . i told her that her she forgot to close her garage door .
she said "oh , i just leave it up since i'm only gone for about 20 minutes "

Welcome to the World of "It will never happen to me"
Remember.. Crime never happens to you.. it's always those 'other people' on TV that get robbed, or home invaded. It's something you read about, not something that actually happens to you....

I feel paranoid when the wife is out working in the yard and leaves it up in sight of her

Every time someone walks by.. I wonder if they're gonna try to steal my awesome cheap-o craftsman workbench that I use to clean my guns...
... Because if they stole that, where would I clean them???

Who was it that said 'have a plan to kill everyone you meet' ?

dicion wrote:
Who was it that said 'have a plan to kill everyone you meet' ?

Hmmmm , i like it ....food for thought

OK , how ironic is this .

there was just a Brinks Home Security commercial on .
my daughter said " who breaks in in the middle of the day ?"

excuse me folks while i go have another talk with her .

USA1 wrote:

dicion wrote:
Who was it that said 'have a plan to kill everyone you meet' ?

Hmmmm , i like it ....food for thought

Apparently it's a Marine Corps Motto or rule or something.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2 ... o-kill.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

dicion wrote: Remember.. Crime never happens to you.. it's always those 'other people' on TV that get robbed, or home invaded. It's something you read about, not something that actually happens to you....

The number I've seen is 1 in 50 chance of being involved in an aggravated assault.

Don't get me wrong, USA1. We aren't like Mayberry, with Barney Fife running around with a bullet in his pocket. We have our share of petty crime. Car burglaries and what not. I sure would not recommend leaving the garage door open around here. unless you have some old junk in there you are hoping someone will take. I was just saying that I don't feel my life is in jeopardy the way some of you fellers talk about.

Reading the post Kieth made, I am more the condition Yellow type. Some of you fellers seem to stay in Orange a lot. I guess if I lived in a more dangerous area I would be Orange too. Around here getting egged or toilet papered is considered crime...LOL. Like I said, most crime around here is property oriented and is usually one of the neighbors teenagers. Sure we have the occasional violent crime and most of theses are people who know each other, drug dealers or the like. It is just not enough to make me carry a gun in the shower with me.

If I venture outside at night I do put my handgun on my hip(concealed, I don't want to freak out the neighbors). If working in the garage during the day I also carry concealed. I didn't use to do that until a guy was killed in his garage in what appeared to be a robbery gone bad a while back...during the day even...LOL.

Like I said...I stay alert but not wired for war.