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SQLGeek wrote:

blackdog8200 wrote:Sounds like we need to get Eharmony to add another match criteria

That could be a pretty extensive list of criteria. Caliber, Manufacturer, Steel vs Plastic, Semi-Auto vs Revolver etc.

My oldest daughter has stated she does not want firearms in her house. It’s her house. I respect that. When we go to visit, we now stay in a motel. I will not leave them in the car overnight.

My son has no problem with it. Matter of fact he bought a shotgun (12 Ga. 18” barrel) for home defense. I recently bought him a Kimber and a stainless Beretta Tomcat. He is going to get his CHL soon.

My youngest daughter wants to go to the range with me next time and shoot. She loves a challenge. I think she will do OK with my Kimber.

PeteCamp wrote:

Only person I want afraid of me is my brother in law.

Or my daughter's boyfriend

SQLGeek wrote:

blackdog8200 wrote:Sounds like we need to get Eharmony to add another match criteria

That could be a pretty extensive list of criteria. Caliber, Manufacturer, Steel vs Plastic, Semi-Auto vs Revolver etc.

A person's choice of firearm (or lack thereof) says a lot about them. Thread jack over!

Never been found out by a business, did have a date repulsed by it though ("I don't believe in guns" quoth she) but she voted for the current prez so I bid her adieu.

flynbenny wrote:

SQLGeek wrote:

blackdog8200 wrote:Sounds like we need to get Eharmony to add another match criteria

That could be a pretty extensive list of criteria. Caliber, Manufacturer, Steel vs Plastic, Semi-Auto vs Revolver etc.

A person's choice of firearm (or lack thereof) says a lot about them. Thread jack over!

Never been found out by a business, did have a date repulsed by it though ("I don't believe in guns" quoth she) but she voted for the current prez so I bid her adieu.

Sounds like a good decision.

Help me out here. I am having a little problem understanding the term "I don't believe in guns". What’s to “believe in”?

I don’t “believe in” crime, but I accept the fact that criminals exist and choose to be prepared for an unpleasant encounter with one.

VoiceofReason wrote:Help me out here. I am having a little problem understanding the term "I don't believe in guns". What’s to “believe in”?

I don’t “believe in” crime, but I accept the fact that criminals exist and choose to be prepared for an unpleasant encounter with one.

Careful, them's fightin' words. Reason has no business in this argument.

karl wrote:

VoiceofReason wrote:Help me out here. I am having a little problem understanding the term "I don't believe in guns". What’s to “believe in”?

I don’t “believe in” crime, but I accept the fact that criminals exist and choose to be prepared for an unpleasant encounter with one.

Careful, them's fightin' words. Reason has no business in this argument.

lol

sawdust wrote:

PeteCamp wrote:

Only person I want afraid of me is my brother in law.

Or my daughter's boyfriend

Funny you said that, my niece's 15 year old boyfreind came in and I met him a couple days ago. I knew that he'd been to a gun store last weekend, so I mentioned it and he said his uncle owned a gun store. We were inside my house so I showed him what I carry (and said I'm glad my niece found a nice fellow who will be sure to RESPECT her.)

I think he will

And no, I've never been "made" so I've never been asked to leave anywhere.

VoiceofReason wrote:

flynbenny wrote:

SQLGeek wrote:

blackdog8200 wrote:Sounds like we need to get Eharmony to add another match criteria

That could be a pretty extensive list of criteria. Caliber, Manufacturer, Steel vs Plastic, Semi-Auto vs Revolver etc.

A person's choice of firearm (or lack thereof) says a lot about them. Thread jack over!

Never been found out by a business, did have a date repulsed by it though ("I don't believe in guns" quoth she) but she voted for the current prez so I bid her adieu.

Sounds like a good decision.

Help me out here. I am having a little problem understanding the term "I don't believe in guns". What’s to “believe in”?

I don’t “believe in” crime, but I accept the fact that criminals exist and choose to be prepared for an unpleasant encounter with one.

Believe me, rational thinking was not her thing...I said what is there to believe in? Guns exist, I mean it's here in my holster made out of plastic and steel! She then said that only the police and army (yep she said army ) should have guns. So in her world the gov and the criminals would be the only ones armed , the two groups of people we trust the most, eh? . Anyway, I think Freud had it right: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity". On a side note that's just about the only thing Freud ever said that I agree with.
Current GF is normal, she does believe in guns . Hasn't shot yet, but when my U22 comes from repair back I'm going to take her to the range. fire

texjames wrote:If your talking CHL carry is supposed to be secret and nobody should know you have a handgun so how can they even ask. (?)

I ask that question every time a thread like this pops up. I never seem to get a good answer. I suspect there are some who talk quite a bit to their friends and relatives about the fact that they carry. I never have these issues because I don't feel the need to advertise the fact that I have a gun on me.

MedicMan218 wrote: She was odd...and from the far north.

LDO...

Redundant IMO.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

texjames wrote:If your talking CHL carry is supposed to be secret and nobody should know you have a handgun so how can they even ask. (?)

I ask that question every time a thread like this pops up. I never seem to get a good answer. I suspect there are some who talk quite a bit to their friends and relatives about the fact that they carry. I never have these issues because I don't feel the need to advertise the fact that I have a gun on me.

Agreed, mostly.. it SHOULD be concealed, but not in the same level as implied by the term “Secret”
I have a differencing opinion on your choice of words.. the weapon is required to be concealed ("Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of
which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable
person.) Not a secret as some have implied.
I may have a different perspective of the word “Secret” then some others, as a Senior Non Commissioned Officer in the army for the last 24 years.. the word secret, top secret and my current clearance have a much higher stated and implied intent of keeping knowledge or info from someone then the laws and definitions concerning carrying a concealed handgun W/CHL IMHO,, Of course IANAL
UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411 , Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
person:

To me, that means we are required to make a reasonable attempt to conceal our weapon. But nowhere near the standard of keeping it a secret .. again IMHO, and IANAL

bronco78 wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

texjames wrote:If your talking CHL carry is supposed to be secret and nobody should know you have a handgun so how can they even ask. (?)

I ask that question every time a thread like this pops up. I never seem to get a good answer. I suspect there are some who talk quite a bit to their friends and relatives about the fact that they carry. I never have these issues because I don't feel the need to advertise the fact that I have a gun on me.

Agreed, mostly.. it SHOULD be concealed, but not in the same level as implied by the term “Secret”
I have a differencing opinion on your choice of words.. the weapon is required to be concealed ("Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of
which is not openly discernible to the ordinary observation of a reasonable
person.) Not a secret as some have implied.
I may have a different perspective of the word “Secret” then some others, as a Senior Non Commissioned Officer in the army for the last 24 years.. the word secret, top secret and my current clearance have a much higher stated and implied intent of keeping knowledge or info from someone then the laws and definitions concerning carrying a concealed handgun W/CHL IMHO,, Of course IANAL
UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411 , Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
person:

To me, that means we are required to make a reasonable attempt to conceal our weapon. But nowhere near the standard of keeping it a secret .. again IMHO, and IANAL

I think the OP means if you are at a business and you keep your mouth shut about the fact that you are carrying, you more than likely will not be asked to leave as they will never know you have a gun on you.

I too am one that will choose when and where to disclose that I have and CHL and places I will or won't disclose that I am carrying. My family all know I carry, but they never really know when I am or not, including my wife. I don't keep secret the fact that I have a CHL, and if I think there is interest in it from a positive nature, I will actually bring the subject up to break the ice. Where that discussion takes place is a different matter. If I am in a gun store, Wal-Mart in the sporting goods department, or back in the gun section at Academy I will openly discuss CHL and carrying, but probably won't disclose if I am actually carrying at the time or not. If I am at a business where I think being overheard could lead to a anti squawking about someone maybe having a gun (they won't know if I am carrying or not), then I will not openly talk about CHL at all there. Kinda like being at the Baptist Church on Sunday morning and telling someone you had a beer last night with dinner; there are places you just don't bring up some subjects to talk about.

Yes, my point exactly. One can comply with the law of keeping the weapon concealed (the laws definition of concealed and the defense to prosecution allowed) and not keep it a secret, as in your example of having an open discussion at an appropriate place and time.

Yep...same here. I never really talk about it to anyone. My immediate family knows I have a CHL but they never think about whether or not I am carrying and I never think to say I am. My friends and acquaintances don't have a clue I am armed. I am not sure why I would ever want to tell them I am. The topic just never comes up. I do have a few friends who also have a CHL but truthfully we never talk about it unless someone has bought a new carry piece or is looking at one and seeks advice. Honestly, I am just a bit concerned with folks taking my confession of packing a gun wrong. It is kind of like telling folks you know Karate. Everyone rolls their eyes and thinks "sure you do" as they assume you are just trying to appear tough. It is the same with guns. Some folks will act different towards you if you advertise you have a gun on you. Some think you are nuts, some think you are trying to be a tough guy, some may just realize you are taking responsibility for your personal protection. In any case, I would rather just keep it to myself. There is really no reason to tell folks you can defend yourself with a firearm any more than there is a reason to tell them you are carrying a knife or that you know Karate. I like not being told to leave my gun behind.