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Just one more thing: nobody thinks a thing about carrying a double action revolver, despite the lack of a mechanical safety (not counting FP blocks). The long heavy trigger pull is all the safety that is needed, but it's always a good idea to carry in a holster anyway, just to protect the trigger.

Some sorta-double-action autos (Glocks, Kahrs, etc.), have shorter and lighter triggers than true DA, so it's especially important to carry them in a holster to protect the trigger. But no matter what, they're not going to go "bang" unless the trigger is pulled.

Kevin

txinvestigator wrote:lol

Actually I DO practice this. The heel of your shoe vs the rear sights works well.

Good man!

Of course, there are many other ways to do it. It wouldn't hurt for everyone to look at what might be necessary to get their weapon into battery if limited to the use of just one hand/arm.

It will vary from one gun to the next. Many firearms are equipped with "Novak" style sights, or a similarly "swept" rear sight. Its pretty tough to do the rear sight "catch" with those.

Might be a good thing to practice on cold winter days when range time doesn't look so appealing. Use snap caps of course.

I'm glad you brought that up TX.

MoJo wrote: Always carry a full magazine +1 you may not get the chance to rack the slide when things go bad.

flintknapper wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:lol

Actually I DO practice this. The heel of your shoe vs the rear sights works well.

Good man!

Of course, there are many other ways to do it. It wouldn't hurt for everyone to look at what might be necessary to get their weapon into battery if limited to the use of just one hand/arm.

It will vary from one gun to the next. Many firearms are equipped with "Novak" style sights, or a similarly "swept" rear sight. Its pretty tough to do the rear sight "catch" with those.

Might be a good thing to practice on cold winter days when range time doesn't look so appealing. Use snap caps of course.

I'm glad you brought that up TX.

Rear pocket of Levis works well, less chance of falling down.

AV8R wrote:Rear pocket of Levis works well, less chance of falling down.

I can see this one now: shoot it empty, manage to get the mags swapped one-handed, then have to stop and look around for someone in jeans to rack the slide on.

AV8R wrote:

flintknapper wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:lol

Actually I DO practice this. The heel of your shoe vs the rear sights works well.

Good man!

Of course, there are many other ways to do it. It wouldn't hurt for everyone to look at what might be necessary to get their weapon into battery if limited to the use of just one hand/arm.

It will vary from one gun to the next. Many firearms are equipped with "Novak" style sights, or a similarly "swept" rear sight. Its pretty tough to do the rear sight "catch" with those.

Might be a good thing to practice on cold winter days when range time doesn't look so appealing. Use snap caps of course.

I'm glad you brought that up TX.

Rear pocket of Levis works well, less chance of falling down.

It doesn't even have to be anything on you. You can use a table top or anything else that will allow you to "catch" the rear sight. The rear sight itself doesn't need to be used, moving the slide rearward (by any means) enough to disengage the slide stop is all that is needed. The possibilities are endless, but need to be thought of before the need arises.

I practice pressing against the hip and shoving down, works well with jeans especially if you can catch the front pocket at the seam, I can do that with most of my guns even in boxer shorts, but some of them are a little rough on the hide.

I'm glad y'all reminded me of this, I haven't tried it with the new XD9, MP9 or CW9, I need to do that this morning.

ElGato wrote:I practice pressing against the hip and shoving down, works well with jeans especially if you can catch the front pocket at the seam, I can do that with most of my guns even in boxer shorts, but some of them are a little rough on the hide.

Ouch...if I'm in my boxers, there should be a "New York reload" available more quickly than messing around with any particular gun one-handed.

...and most likely, the chosen reload will be a 12ga with the combo SpeedFeed (full stock + pistol grip) so it can be used one handed, albeit slowly and only somewhat painfully.

If someone is not comfortable with an automatic I do not believe that is anything to be ashamed of. Carry a revolver! Those who carry revolvers are not second class citizens. There are some out there who just do not feel comfortable carrying automatics. Practice is the key to whatever you are going to carry.

longtooth wrote:Good job bigun. I do not remember who said it but one of you young guys taught this old dog something new. There are a lot of us that have been shootin so long that a gun on the rack, in the corner, or on the belt is just part of life. My grandkids don't pay it any attention. You that are young & new to carry are not that comfortable yet.
Whoever said, carry it cocked & locked w/ an empty chamber for a few days & see how many times it just goes off had a good idea. I will use that in the future as a teaching tool. Thank you younguns & bigun.

What a great post bigun!....guess due to my growing up w/ revolvers in AZ as a kid til mid 20s....just didn't think of it when evolved to SA....where I've been carrying with empty chamber on my 229R/239/232 DA/SA Sig.
Too many valid arguments brought out to chamber one and + 1 the mag...due timeframe of necessity (situational) of firearm use, injury, incapacitated, etc. when a slide would be too late or impossible (i.e wounded).

Definitely feel comfortable with idea of carrying chambered...but a whole new mindset to me. At this point my kneejerk reaction I would think- if needed- to draw and slide (thereby losing the +1) to target.

Anyone else have this same concern as me?

Skipper5 wrote:
Too many valid arguments brought out to chamber one and + 1 the mag...due timeframe of necessity (situational) of firearm use, injury, incapacitated, etc. when a slide would be too late or impossible (i.e wounded).

Definitely feel comfortable with idea of carrying chambered...but a whole new mindset to me. At this point my kneejerk reaction I would think- if needed- to draw and slide (thereby losing the +1) to target.

Anyone else have this same concern as me?

I haven't had my CHL for long (just a couple of days) So other opinions should have more weight.
I carry with one in the chamber. Which will -1 the count in my magazine. Thats 15 rounds plus another 15 in the spare mag. I'm not going to worry about round 16 topping off my first mag as long as round 1 is in the tube.

Liberty wrote:

Skipper5 wrote:
Too many valid arguments brought out to chamber one and + 1 the mag...due timeframe of necessity (situational) of firearm use, injury, incapacitated, etc. when a slide would be too late or impossible (i.e wounded).

Definitely feel comfortable with idea of carrying chambered...but a whole new mindset to me. At this point my kneejerk reaction I would think- if needed- to draw and slide (thereby losing the +1) to target.

Anyone else have this same concern as me?

I haven't had my CHL for long (just a couple of days) So other opinions should have more weight.
I carry with one in the chamber. Which will -1 the count in my magazine. Thats 15 rounds plus another 15 in the spare mag. I'm not going to worry about round 16 topping off my first mag as long as round 1 is in the tube.

No problem.

No real need to top off a Hi-Cap. The "top-off" is a good idea for those carrying a S/A with a capacity of fewer than 10 rounds IMO.

I resemble that last statement my friend.

yeah agree on say my stacked 229 mag....but for the 239Sig....the 7 + 1 would be nice....

It is RARE that I disagree with you fine and wise gentlemen...I have a great deal of respect for you all, but I was all that my gun will hold!

I realize that 17 in my glock is plenty...but Mr. Murphy does not like me. Besides, I am a poor shot and might need the extra round!
Jason