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Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:11 am
by Excaliber
baldeagle wrote:
Reloader wrote:You are assuming this bozo can READ! you sometimes have to deal with idots.
I'm not a moderator, but I believe this comes perilously close to a rule 9 violation. "Blatant, global, or rampant law enforcement bashing is prohibited. Discussions of specific identifiable events presented factually are fine." I think calling a police officer a bozo is uncalled for, regardless of what opinion you may have formed about his actions.
I agree.

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:35 am
by Purplehood
Sewere_Ice,

I don't understand your statement, "The officer I dealt with was very professional, however demeaning towards me,". Please clarify.

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:57 pm
by Aggie_engr
Sewer_Ice wrote:I'm going to wait till after I'm off campus to do all this, officer took a picture and everything on his PDA before he let me go, have a feeling I'll be randomly stopped at some point to ensure I'm no longer carrying, and I know he's gonna have it out for me after I talk to his boss.
FWIW, I've spoken with campus police chiefs of both the Texas A&M college station and galveston campuses about carrying on campus and storing a handgun in a vehicle by a license holder and I've never been put on a "watch list" in the past three years. ;-)

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:26 pm
by Sewer_Ice
Purplehood wrote:Sewere_Ice,

I don't understand your statement, "The officer I dealt with was very professional, however demeaning towards me,". Please clarify.
He was professional in how he approached the situation, however he was demeaning towards me when he insulted my knowledge of CHL laws, when in fact he was the one who didn't know them very well.

A Captain called me today from UNT PD, a few times to figure it all out. The Captain is a CHL instructor! So, yes the officer was in the wrong. It took them a while to figure out which officer it was because every traffic stop is suppose to be recorded on dash cam, mine was not. They're now trying to figure out why it was off in the first place.

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:18 pm
by Purplehood
Sewer_Ice wrote:
Purplehood wrote:Sewere_Ice,

I don't understand your statement, "The officer I dealt with was very professional, however demeaning towards me,". Please clarify.
He was professional in how he approached the situation, however he was demeaning towards me when he insulted my knowledge of CHL laws, when in fact he was the one who didn't know them very well.

A Captain called me today from UNT PD, a few times to figure it all out. The Captain is a CHL instructor! So, yes the officer was in the wrong. It took them a while to figure out which officer it was because every traffic stop is suppose to be recorded on dash cam, mine was not. They're now trying to figure out why it was off in the first place.
LOL. Sounds like you opened a can of worms over there!

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:05 pm
by Cobra Medic
baldeagle wrote:I'm not a moderator, but I believe this comes perilously close to a rule 9 violation. "Blatant, global, or rampant law enforcement bashing is prohibited. Discussions of specific identifiable events presented factually are fine." I think calling a police officer a bozo is uncalled for, regardless of what opinion you may have formed about his actions.
It may be uncalled for but it has nothing to do with whether the alleged bozo is a LEO or a CHL. It's not "global" to make a comment about an individual's behavior in a "specific identifiable event" like he did. If I say not nice things about an individual criminal based on that individual's behavior, and the criminal happens to be White, that doesn't make my comments racist against all Whites. Or if someone says not nice things about an individual CHL who does something stupid, that's not CHL-bashing. (Although it would be nice if a CHL forum also had a rule against CHL-bashing, enforced with the same standards as the LEO-bashing rule. :mrgreen: )

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:16 pm
by gigag04
Aside,
Cobra Medic wrote:(Although it would be nice if a CHL forum also had a rule against CHL-bashing, enforced with the same standards as the LEO-bashing rule. :mrgreen: )
I have yet to see a CHL used as kicking dog for someone's frustration due to their own mistakes. The reverse is not true.

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:15 pm
by C-dub
Purplehood wrote:
Sewer_Ice wrote:
Purplehood wrote:Sewere_Ice,

I don't understand your statement, "The officer I dealt with was very professional, however demeaning towards me,". Please clarify.
He was professional in how he approached the situation, however he was demeaning towards me when he insulted my knowledge of CHL laws, when in fact he was the one who didn't know them very well.

A Captain called me today from UNT PD, a few times to figure it all out. The Captain is a CHL instructor! So, yes the officer was in the wrong. It took them a while to figure out which officer it was because every traffic stop is suppose to be recorded on dash cam, mine was not. They're now trying to figure out why it was off in the first place.
LOL. Sounds like you opened a can of worms over there!
Yes. Yes it does. Excellent!!! "rlol"

Re: Run in with UNT Police, whose ignorant?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:17 pm
by C-dub
Cobra Medic wrote:
baldeagle wrote:I'm not a moderator, but I believe this comes perilously close to a rule 9 violation. "Blatant, global, or rampant law enforcement bashing is prohibited. Discussions of specific identifiable events presented factually are fine." I think calling a police officer a bozo is uncalled for, regardless of what opinion you may have formed about his actions.
It may be uncalled for but it has nothing to do with whether the alleged bozo is a LEO or a CHL. It's not "global" to make a comment about an individual's behavior in a "specific identifiable event" like he did. If I say not nice things about an individual criminal based on that individual's behavior, and the criminal happens to be White, that doesn't make my comments racist against all Whites. Or if someone says not nice things about an individual CHL who does something stupid, that's not CHL-bashing. (Although it would be nice if a CHL forum also had a rule against CHL-bashing, enforced with the same standards as the LEO-bashing rule. :mrgreen: )
There is no doubt that both the OP and the officer can read, so it sure sounds like bashing to me.