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casselthief wrote:
ah, racism can be entertaining.
try learning more about their culture first, then you can throw educated stones.
not spout off stereotypical jibber-jabber that makes you look as equally bad.

Oh, no. It consumes all races. It is after years of observation of these people, if you find one that speaks english all they want to talk about is their rappers....there is not a normal, civilized bone in those "people's" bodies.

I think there is sarcasm in this, it sounds too funny to be serious....learn more about their culture!? I am honestly laughing as I write this, I have been among these type of people for years, I have seen how they work, play, live...everything, I know how they interact with each other...You obviosuly have not had to be around this culture or else you would not be as accepting of it, they don't act human.

WheySmart wrote:...You obviosuly have not had to be around this culture or else you would not be as accepting of it, they don't act human.

The key world is "culture", yet you seem to be applying it very broadly to a racial group.

Let me tell you for a fact: the culture you described is found in all racial groups. I see them every day at work.

Kevin

I am irritated with you people putting words into my mouth, if I hated them because of their race I would just say it... I stated in my previous most that it "consumes all races". But you would rather sit around and point fingers at people being racist instead of actually reading now wouldn't you? This happens all the time, why can't people read?

WheySmart wrote:I am irritated with you people putting words into my mouth, if I hated them because of their race I would just say it... I stated in my previous most that it "consumes all races". But you would rather sit around and point fingers at people being racist instead of actually reading now wouldn't you? This happens all the time, why can't people read?

I make it a general rule to read what people actually write, and not try to infer what they thought while writing it. If you wish to be more clearly understood, the burden is on you to communicate more clearly.

The original article was about people who all happened to have Hispanic surnames. You waded in with comments about "these people" who "jiitter out their ebonics" and "if you find one that speaks english all they want to talk about is their rappers".

Introducing buzzwords of racism and then claiming offense when called on it is an immature approach to discussion.

Kevin

I'd just love to see how confused WheySmart will be when he meets me

Edited to add: I hit the wrong key too soon. WheySmart, you stuck your foot in your mouth...You got called on it. Take corrective action and move on. I do find it ironic that you would point out someone else acting like " children... big, stupid children." It's also classically racist to dehumanize other people as part of the justification for how you feel about them.

G.C.Montgomery wrote:I'd just love to see how confused WheySmart will be when he meets me

He'll be looking up, and up, and up, and up... and wondering, "Does it ever end?"

Or maybe he'll just think it's a total eclipse.

G.C. is a great guy and a good teacher. WheySmart, if you ever get the chance to do any training under him, you will enjoy his company and learn a lot from him.

G.C.Montgomery wrote:I'd just love to see how confused WheySmart will be when he meets me

Edited to add: I hit the wrong key too soon. WheySmart, you stuck your foot in your mouth...You got called on it. Take corrective action and move on. I do find it ironic that you would point out someone else acting like " children... big, stupid children." It's also classically racist to dehumanize other people as part of the justification for how you feel about them.

Thank You! I've been sooooooo...biting my tongue. But I made a promise to one of our mods that I'd be quiet and patient.

WheySmart wrote: I am honestly laughing as I write this, I have been among these type of people for years, I have seen how they work, play, live...everything....

For years? And you know everything? Come on, kiddo. I have underwear older than you.

Maybe you should go back to the kiddie pool till you grow up, or at least until you make it out of junior high.

llwatson wrote:I have underwear older than you.

Linda! You too? Not counting T-shirts, I have underwear components I can date back to--I think; no precision here--the mid-'80s. Elastic is blown, they get get tossed. But some live on.

Now, T-shirts--not undershirts--I have going back to 1970: a well-worn Woodstock original I obtained while overseas, eight or ten months after the event itself.

Somehow, I now hesitate to say in public that I have a 37-year-old T-shirt. Gack. Too late.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

KBCraig wrote: If you wish to be more clearly understood, the burden is on you to communicate more clearly.

Kevin

Ahaaa :)

Isnt that what Whey was trying to say in the first place :)

It isnt up to me to "learn" your culture when it is you trying to communicate with me. If i go down to mexico, im not going to expect everyone to understand me as i speak english.

Heck, i dont expect them to understand me if i speak the spanish texas born hispanics speak.

If your going to try and communicate with someone, step out of your hip-hop bubble world and realize that not everyone understands what Flow, Grill, or Def mean.

dihappy wrote:Heck, i dont expect them to understand me if i speak the spanish texas born hispanics speak.

Heh. I've actually seen a conversation between a Mariel Cuban, and a Tex-Mex from the Valley, where they had to speak English to understand each other.

WheySmart: you said, multiple times, "those people."
that, is a racist retort. whether they are black, hispanic, or anglo, you are lumping them all together.
I know black guys, that listen to rap, that could care less about hunting, and are the best people in the world.
I also realize that there is are stereotypes, and if anyone in this culture wants to not be a stereotype, they have to try REALLY hard to not fall into that.
I know this. I get stereotyped all the time. I'm white, have facial hair, earrings, and listen to heavy metal.
means I'm an idiot and a drug addict, right? I know the times that my stereotype hurts me, and the times that it helps me.
However, we're not talking about me, we're talking about you. you being short sighted in your comments, lambasting everything in your path, all the while claiming innocence to the obvious.
I know. I'm just full of it. if I don't watch my back, the whole world is going to gang up on me.....
sure. got news for you, child. I've already had plenty of interactions with Thugs. yeah, they were black. yeah, they fit that stereotype to a T.
they shot at me, and my friends, while trying to rob us. they tried to kill us.
however, my best friend, Jon, whom I've known since 8th grade, is black, wears gold jewelry, listens to hip-hop, dance music.
dude's also a cop.
gotcha there, didn't I?
you see, if you're going to talk about a group, as in this case, these hispanic gang members, you have to use language such as "These Types of People," not "These People." you see the difference?
if you manage to get into college, take a few English classes, and they can tell you the difference.
the point being it's all in how you say things.
whether you want to start the next Zionist nation is irrelevant. you say "All Katrina evacuees are criminals" and you're wrong.
we have one in my apt complex in particular that's just a grand illustration of what is wrong with this world.
and she's white.
so, go back to your head shaving, and re-read mein kampf a few more times, maybe eventually you can watch American History X and get the REAL point behind the film...

Please keep this thread on topic. Thank you.

KBCraig wrote:

WheySmart wrote:...You obviosuly have not had to be around this culture or else you would not be as accepting of it, they don't act human.

The key world is "culture", yet you seem to be applying it very broadly to a racial group.

Let me tell you for a fact: the culture you described is found in all racial groups. I see them every day at work.

Kevin

I read WheySmart's meaning of culture as the bad portion of the current younger generation, and not the culture of just one race.

I think that some people are just way, way too sensitive and have let this get out of hand.

WheySmart is talking about the culture of the gangs, be they White, Hispanic, Afican-American, Vietnamese, Saudi or Hindu.

It's this gang mentality that should be focused upon, not the color of the skin of the members, nor the jumping on of someone.

Just my thoughts on this as this has gotten personal and it needs to halt.
Russ