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The Annoyed Man wrote:But the Obama administration is manifestly soft on protecting the national interests, including national defense.

Can't agree with this....I think they're aggressively pursuing "national interests;" it's just that their view of "national interests" means dismantling the America of the Founders and replacing it with a "socialist utopia" of impoverished dependents beholden to their government masters for a roof over their heads and whatever scraps of State approved "nutritious" food they are allowed to eat.

earlier this month, I said:

The drip-drip-drip of news stories on Holder and fast & furious gun running continues.

I stand by my prediction that the drips will continue until the November 6th election or Holder resigns and that he will never be convicted of Contempt because of the Democrat controlled Senate.

I now believe I was mistaken.
The senate does not prosecute contempt of congress. The justice department prosecutes it.

That would be interesting.

If the House charges Holder with Contempt of Congress, then Holder will have to prosecute.

tomneal wrote:earlier this month, I said:

The drip-drip-drip of news stories on Holder and fast & furious gun running continues.

I stand by my prediction that the drips will continue until the November 6th election or Holder resigns and that he will never be convicted of Contempt because of the Democrat controlled Senate.

I now believe I was mistaken.
The senate does not prosecute contempt of congress. The justice department prosecutes it.

That would be interesting.

If the House charges Holder with Contempt of Congress, then Holder will have to prosecute.

IF they actually get up the nerve to hold him in contempt, I have a feeling they would appoint a special prosecutor to look into the charges.

Personal prediction only: this thing gets drug out through the coming election with Eric Holder using the same stalling tactics and half-answers that he has used up to this point, dribbling out documents that must be searched through; then Congressman Issa and Senator Grassley are forced to come back to ask for the REST of it once their staff realize more info is still missing. Mr. Romney squeaks out a win this fall by a swing state or two, and the man currently occupying the WH, on his departure from office, pardons Eric Holder of any and all possible anything that may or may not have occurred. Eric Holder then goes into private practice teaching others how to evade whatever it is they are stuck in...

I could be wrong, though...

I read this morning that the current Republican leadership is pushing for Congressman Issa to back-off on this contempt thing until the election is over as they don't want it to detract from voters paying attention to other things.
I guess that any issue related to the 2nd Amendment or RKBA is just too ugly even for our supposedly conservative leadership.

"Multiple, previously highly credible, sources close to the Gunwalker
investigation report that there are at least one and perhaps two sources
within the Department of Justice headquarters who have approached the Issa
Committee seeking whistleblower status."

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Rex B wrote:"Multiple, previously highly credible, sources close to the Gunwalker
investigation report that there are at least one and perhaps two sources
within the Department of Justice headquarters who have approached the Issa
Committee seeking whistleblower status."

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Give it to them! RIGHT AWAY!

The more people from within BATF and Justice who are disgusted with what they know as insiders and are willing to step forward, the harder it is for Holder to squash them. The truth WILL out eventually, but the sooner, the better. Why? Not just because it could me the firing and disbarment of Holder (bonus points), but because it could go a long way toward restoring a sense of confidence in the integrity of government in the minds of the citizenry. When that confidence is gone, we're dangerously close to events that we should desire to avoid except as a last resort.

...the key words are "after the election"...obummer doesn't want to be faced with asking holder to resign...or face the voters if he refuses to...so delay and drag it out...wonder what he told the Republican leaders to get them to pull back...nothing is to be taken at face value...

I think the drip-drip-drip of disclosure is better than getting it all over with at once.

If Holder had said that it was his fault and resigned when this first came out, it wouldn't have affected the upcoming presidential election.
Hopefully it will get resolved just in time for 0bama to have to explain in time to loose a few more votes.

tomneal wrote:I think the drip-drip-drip of disclosure is better than getting it all over with at once.

If Holder had said that it was his fault and resigned when this first came out, it wouldn't have affected the upcoming presidential election.
Hopefully it will get resolved just in time for 0bama to have to explain in time to loose a few more votes.

Holder doesn't appear to me to be someone who's team player enough to fall on his own sword for his boss.

Purplehood wrote:I read this morning that the current Republican leadership is pushing for Congressman Issa to back-off on this contempt thing until the election is over as they don't want it to detract from voters paying attention to other things.
I guess that any issue related to the 2nd Amendment or RKBA is just too ugly even for our supposedly conservative leadership.

Can you please provide a link? I'd like to read it myself, I always learn more that way.

Fox is now reporting that the WH is asserting Executive Privilege

tomneal wrote:earlier this month, I said:

The drip-drip-drip of news stories on Holder and fast & furious gun running continues.

I stand by my prediction that the drips will continue until the November 6th election or Holder resigns and that he will never be convicted of Contempt because of the Democrat controlled Senate.

I now believe I was mistaken.
The senate does not prosecute contempt of congress. The justice department prosecutes it.

That would be interesting.

If the House charges Holder with Contempt of Congress, then Holder will have to prosecute.

The way I understand it the justice department is *not* obligated to prosecute anyway.

sjfcontrol wrote:Fox is now reporting that the WH is asserting Executive Privilege

...http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/06/20/ju ... -involved/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well that article was interesting.

Napolitano concluded, “If the president was not personally involved, executive privilege doesn’t apply. If the president was personally involved, and they want to argue that fighting drug gangs at the border is a matter of sensitive national security, then they at least have an argument for executive privilege but that would be at odds with what Attorney General Holder has already testified to under oath.”

According to Judge Napolitano if Executive Privilege applies then Attorney General Holder lied to congress. (Who is Roger Clements?)