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smoothoperator wrote:

RSJ wrote:Does anyone have a link or case citation to the litigation between the "gun trust lawyers" in TX or other states? I heard there are lawsuits pending, and I am highly interested in the outcome and the effect on my potential practice of law in this area.

Did he hire Apple's lawyers and their judge?

That's what I'm thinking. If anyone thinks they have the sole right to practice a particular area of the law, they might be getting a decretory judgment against them.

The Annoyed Man wrote:Pay a lawyer $500 now, versus pay him $50,000 later?

There is an outfit, whose name I don't remember but I have the card of one of their attorneys here in DFW. I spoke with him at the "Silencers are Legal" event at Elm Fork a few months ago. Their cost was $499, and the instrument they provide is multi-state legal.....

In addition to your point, I also view it like the $499 not only purchases the actual legal document, it also purchases the equivalent of a lifetime warranty that the document is a valid trust at the time of execution, since every lawyer carries malpractice insurance.

Jumping Frog wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Pay a lawyer $500 now, versus pay him $50,000 later?

There is an outfit, whose name I don't remember but I have the card of one of their attorneys here in DFW. I spoke with him at the "Silencers are Legal" event at Elm Fork a few months ago. Their cost was $499, and the instrument they provide is multi-state legal.....

In addition to your point, I also view it like the $499 not only purchases the actual legal document, it also purchases the equivalent of a lifetime warranty that the document is a valid trust at the time of execution, since every lawyer carries malpractice insurance.[/quote]

Jumping Frog wrote:... since every lawyer carries malpractice insurance.

Wishful thinking, but it just aint' true.

Wes wrote:I just went through this very same thing and actually did one online before determining I would prefer to pay a lawyer and make sure it was right from the get go. I would hate to wait for my Form 4 just to be denied and have to start over. Plus, if it does get through and its still wrong, which can happen, and I get in trouble later then it really wasnt worth saving a buck now.

I used The Bass Firm here in Dallas, and Chris Bass was quick to respond to my questions. Once I was ready to go he had it ready and mailed to me the same week. The best part, he only charges $300! I would highly recommend him if you are wanting to get a trust set up, it was a small price to pay IMO. Oh, and I ordered a Warlock II ;)

Just wanted to come in here and back this up. I was planning on using Quicken Willmaker to do my own but then after a few months, ran across this thread and decided to use Chris Bass. I paid with Paypal so it was $310. He started working on it not long after a couple emails and had the packet sent out to me the day after. He has been pretty prompt on answering all my questions that I had. I would recommend him. I thought about using Sean Cody but after sending a couple emails and not getting a response, I decided to use Bass Firm. Now to find the suppressor I want.

philbo wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:... since every lawyer carries malpractice insurance.

Wishful thinking, but it just aint' true.

More accurately, commercial general liability insurance.

Jumping Frog wrote:

philbo wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:... since every lawyer carries malpractice insurance.

Wishful thinking, but it just aint' true.

More accurately, commercial general liability insurance.

Nope. Attorneys aren't required to carry any malpractice or liability insurance and most don't. May be foolish but those are the facts.

philbo wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:

philbo wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:... since every lawyer carries malpractice insurance.

Wishful thinking, but it just aint' true.

More accurately, commercial general liability insurance.

Nope. Attorneys aren't required to carry any malpractice or liability insurance and most don't. May be foolish but those are the facts.

With law school debt, many are judgment proof.

RSJ wrote:With law school debt, many are judgment proof.

Very true unfortunately.

philbo wrote:

RSJ wrote:With law school debt, many are judgment proof.

Very true unfortunately.

myself possibly included

I spoke at a continuing legal education seminar in San Antonio last Friday. My topics were Castle Doctrine, Motorist Protection Act and the new Texas "Range Protection Law." I mention this only to show I didn't have anything to do with so-called gun trusts.

There was a segment on gun trusts by an attorney from Florida who writes directly or indirectly more trusts than probably anyone else in the country. After his presentation, I was talking with about six or eight attorneys from around the state that either write gun trusts or are considering doing so. Among them were about six or eight different opinions about these trusts. One of the attorneys sends a seven page, single spaced "warning/acknowledgement" letter to each client pointing out potential problem areas, trustee responsibilities, and the ever-changing state of the law in terms of federal law and the laws of 50 different states.

I do not write gun trusts in spite of many dozens of requests to do so. There is a reason for this. Please don't ask me for advice or to comment on any attorney or trust. I will politely decline.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I spoke at a continuing legal education seminar in San Antonio last Friday. My topics were Castle Doctrine, Motorist Protection Act and the new Texas "Range Protection Law." I mention this only to show I didn't have anything to do with so-called gun trusts.

There was a segment on gun trusts by an attorney from Florida who writes directly or indirectly more trusts than probably anyone else in the country. After his presentation, I was talking with about six or eight attorneys from around the state that either write gun trusts or are considering doing so. Among them were about six or eight different opinions about these trusts. One of the attorneys sends a seven page, single spaced "warning/acknowledgement" letter to each client pointing out potential problem areas, trustee responsibilities, and the ever-changing state of the law in terms of federal law and the laws of 50 different states.

I do not write gun trusts in spite of many dozens of requests to do so. There is a reason for this. Please don't ask me for advice or to comment on any attorney or trust. I will politely decline.

Chas.

Would you be willing to comment on your reason for not writing NFA trusts? or is it the above multi-opinions on the rapidly changing law? I am strongly considering getting into the business.

I would definitely pay a lawyer. I used [Pre-paid legal service]. $299. They gave me a membership card and will aid you with all transfers. I have a Form 4 pending right now for a AAC M4-2000. I used http://silencedamerica.com/aacmain.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and have nothing but good to say about Scott the owner. He is a retired Marine and heck of a nice nice guy. They have two shops the one in DFW is at 2408 E Trinity Mills Rd, Carrollton. I haven't seen anyone else with prices even close to his. I paid $860 plus tax for my can. It retails for $1050 and i paid around $930 after tax. About 1.5 months in and got a while to go. LOL. I do recommend [Pre-paid legal service] also. They were very nice and very fast. The Trust is 16 pages so i don't recommend doing it yourself. Its pretty complicated and detailed. When you get ready for a purchase give Scott a look. I don't think you can beat his prices. I put some links below and attached Silenced America's price list to this post. Hopefully I did it correctly.

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I spoke with Sean Cody about a year ago and he quoted me a price of around 450-500 dollars to do mine. I haven't done it yet but I am here in the very near future. I would like to get some SBR's, but more importantly, I want to be able to keep my regular pistols and rifles in case these Dem's and Liberals get their way.
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jiannichan wrote:

Wes wrote:I just went through this very same thing and actually did one online before determining I would prefer to pay a lawyer and make sure it was right from the get go. I would hate to wait for my Form 4 just to be denied and have to start over. Plus, if it does get through and its still wrong, which can happen, and I get in trouble later then it really wasnt worth saving a buck now.

I used The Bass Firm here in Dallas, and Chris Bass was quick to respond to my questions. Once I was ready to go he had it ready and mailed to me the same week. The best part, he only charges $300! I would highly recommend him if you are wanting to get a trust set up, it was a small price to pay IMO. Oh, and I ordered a Warlock II ;)

Just wanted to come in here and back this up. I was planning on using Quicken Willmaker to do my own but then after a few months, ran across this thread and decided to use Chris Bass. I paid with Paypal so it was $310. He started working on it not long after a couple emails and had the packet sent out to me the day after. He has been pretty prompt on answering all my questions that I had. I would recommend him. I thought about using Sean Cody but after sending a couple emails and not getting a response, I decided to use Bass Firm. Now to find the suppressor I want.

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