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gigag04 wrote:Re: the jury comments, I often say that juries are generally 12 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

Unless they are retired and like to sit on a jury.

WildBill wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Re: the jury comments, I often say that juries are generally 12 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

Unless they are retired and like to sit on a jury.

Yessir! That $6.00 almost buys enough gas to get to the courthouse and back to the rocker. Don't fergit the free lunch that comes with it. Boy Howdy!

Oldgringo wrote:

WildBill wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Re: the jury comments, I often say that juries are generally 12 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

Unless they are retired and like to sit on a jury.

Yessir! That $6.00 almost buys enough gas to get to the courthouse and back to the rocker. Don't fergit the free lunch that comes with it. Boy Howdy!

If I were an attorney I would strike you immediately for being a grumpy old man. You wouldn't even be there long enough to get a voucher for lunch.

harrycallahan wrote:Take your finger off the trigger before you get yourself hurt...

But then I stay confused most of the time.

I saw an episode of "COPS" once where it took six officers to subdue one naked man. Did not look like fun for any of them.

Took 3 officers to subdue this naked man after he shrugged off a taser.

http://www.kptv.com/story/18960285/nake ... ith-police

recaffeination wrote: Maybe gigag04 is better trained than a typical campus cop at A&M but if so it's probably because who he is as a person more than his employer.

To be clear, I'm not with UPD...I might have a broader range of experience due to what agency I'm with and what side of town I work, but I know some very good cops with a maroon patch on their shoulder.

ddurkof wrote:

harrycallahan wrote:Take your finger off the trigger before you get yourself hurt...

But then I stay confused most of the time.

I don't know what's going on either.

tacticool wrote:

chris211 wrote:I completed my third tactical pistol course of the year, yeasterday. This class had several top notch shooters, very knowledgable in all types of firearms. A marine, couple of Army and one police academy graduate.

Two mags, 3 rds each. The course of fire: Closest target 10 feet, one round; second target at 25 feet, two rounds, tactical reload, second target gets one more and first target gets the last two. Get off the X.

The first pass, half the shooters could not remember the sequence,

I have a threat at 10 feet and they say I should put one round into the immediate threat, then fire two at the far threat, then reload, then fire another round at the threat 25 feet away, before I can shoot the close threat a second time?

It's no wonder a bunch of experienced shooters might solve those threats in a different, less arbitrary order.

Sorry, didn't make it back very fast. I don't post here much, just read .

It was not a threat accessment exercise, just a simple follow instructions and think through it exercise. The shooters were not ask to determine a course of fire...just follow instructions. Once the clock started, people react so different....

I have still not heard nor can determine what this officer actually seen that night. I mean, just a few months ago we saw pics of a naked man eating a guys face off and it took several shots to stop the threat. College campus. people standing around? Kids making noise? Naked guy acting like a crazed fool? Dark, alone...on my front lawn...I would have shot him and likely more than once, since the report says the kid got back up and come at the officer again.

Some departments are not allotted less than lethal weapons. Did he have a tazer? I have not heard if he had one. I know Harris County Constables in PCT 8 don't carry 'em...

More info on the shooting here:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/156 ... oting.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The guy was high on LSD. Assaulted several people prior to the shooting. Police did not have taser, pepper spray or baton, just the gun. There is a video of the incident, but most likely will not be made public.

Just cause a person is naked does not mean they are defenseless. I would not want to be in the cops shoes, but I could see a few scenarios where a naked person would be a lethal threat. Sorry the student died, but that is why we tell people not to use drugs, they make you do terrible crazy things. Choices have consequences.

mamabearCali wrote:Just cause a person is naked does not mean they are defenseless. I would not want to be in the cops shoes, but I could see a few scenarios where a naked person would be a lethal threat. Sorry the student died, but that is why we tell people not to use drugs, they make you do terrible crazy things. Choices have consequences.

Right on, Mama! All nekid people should be shot on sight....well, er,...uh,...maybe not all of 'em.

If they are naked and eating someone's face, or if they are screaming at you threats and coming on quick.....yep you might have to use legal force. Now if they are in your domiciles room of rest and are welcome, well, now that may be a horse of a whole different color.

With the last couple of posts this is drifting in a wrong direction for this forum. Remember rules on inuendo.
Back on topic so it wont get locked.

New information released, according to the lawyer the officer did have access to less than lethal measures. This case should be interesting as it unfolds...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/11/justice/a ... index.html