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Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:59 pm
by CHLMan
ATF considers a semi auto a PISTOL and a revolver a REVOLVER for firearm documentation purposes.
NRA says that a pistol is the generic cover for both semi auto and revolver.
Texas CHL says a semi auto is a Pistol and a revolver is not.
I think we're picking nits on this one!!!!
All depends on what you are talking about and sets up confusion amongst the UN EGEKATED

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:06 pm
by nyj
We're not picking nits, since Colt invented the revolver and they call it a pistol in their ad, then they know better than any of us, right, android?

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:25 pm
by jocat54
This has been a funny thread. The OP asked if his chl certification covered him for a pistol . I think everyone knew what he was asking.

Then it turned into who knew more about pistols and revolvers and which dictionary was the best, ect.


Thanks, this has been fun.

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:26 pm
by Keith B
Actually, you need to go to the real definition and ask Mr. Webster.
pis·tol
[pis-tl] Show IPA noun, verb, pis·toled, pis·tol·ing or ( especially British ) pis·tolled, pis·tol·ling.
noun
1.
a short firearm intended to be held and fired with one hand.
re·volv·er
[ri-vol-ver] Show IPA
noun
1.
a handgun having a revolving chambered cylinder for holding a number of cartridges, which may be discharged in succession without reloading
So, pistol covers both. Revolver only covers them, as a semi-automatic covers those. There are also single-shot pistols.

The real term would be handgun
hand·gun
[hand-guhn] Show IPA
noun
any firearm that can be held and fired with one hand; a revolver or a pistol.

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:37 pm
by jmra
CHLMan wrote:ATF considers a semi auto a PISTOL and a revolver a REVOLVER for firearm documentation purposes.
NRA says that a pistol is the generic cover for both semi auto and revolver.
Texas CHL says a semi auto is a Pistol and a revolver is not.
I think we're picking nits on this one!!!!
All depends on what you are talking about and sets up confusion amongst the UN EGEKATED
I believe KeithB has resolved the issue, but could you provide a reference to CHL law where the term "pistol" is used along with its definition?
I briefly scanned the the laws pertaining to CHL and could only find a reference to "handgun" and defined two different types of handguns; those that are semiautomatic (SA) and those that are not (NSA).

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:30 pm
by ScottDLS
Everyone knows a Pistol takes a clip and a revolver takes bullets. There! DONE! My logic cannot be broken.. "rlol"

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:41 pm
by Carry-a-Kimber
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FTW!!

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:53 pm
by couzin
BATF has in their regulations a definition for "pistol" and for "revolver".

27 CFR 479.11 - Meaning of terms. Subpart B

Pistol. A weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).

Revolver. A projectile weapon, of the pistol type, having a breechloading chambered cylinder so arranged that the cocking of the hammer or movement of the trigger rotates it and brings the next cartridge in line with the barrel for firing.

And TXDPS separates the two in only one place:

PC Subsection 46.01(12) "Armor-piercing ammunition" means handgun ammunition
that is designed primarily for the purpose of penetrating metal or body
armor and to be used principally in pistols and revolvers
. (emphasis mine)

It is the only place where "pistol" is found and only the second place where "revolver" is found.

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:34 pm
by jmra
couzin wrote:BATF has in their regulations a definition for "pistol" and for "revolver".

27 CFR 479.11 - Meaning of terms. Subpart B

Pistol. A weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).

Revolver. A projectile weapon, of the pistol type, having a breechloading chambered cylinder so arranged that the cocking of the hammer or movement of the trigger rotates it and brings the next cartridge in line with the barrel for firing.

And TXDPS separates the two in only one place:

PC Subsection 46.01(12) "Armor-piercing ammunition" means handgun ammunition
that is designed primarily for the purpose of penetrating metal or body
armor and to be used principally in pistols and revolvers
. (emphasis mine)

It is the only place where "pistol" is found and only the second place where "revolver" is found.
When was BATF ever right about anything.

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:54 am
by jmra
So, if you are reloading 44 mags do you use a pistol primer or a revolver primer? "rlol"

Re: Semi Vs Pistol

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:40 am
by Keith B
jmra wrote:So, if you are reloading 44 mags do you use a pistol primer or a revolver primer? "rlol"
Depends on what you are going to shoot them in. Don't want to screw up and load it in the wrong thing!! :mrgreen: