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If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

ScooterSissy wrote:...I'm proud of what Zimmerman did. Were I in his place, I very well might have done the same thing. He chose not to stick his head in the sand and let his neighborhood succumb to the "law of the jungle". Yep, he paid a price for it. So did Martin and his family. Sometimes, that happens when one person chooses to obey the law, and another chooses not to.

Your "pride" in what he did is what engenders others to "go on patrol" when they are issued a CHL. It's the harbinger of vigilantism.

I wonder how many break-ins have occurred at Twin Lakes since this happened.

There's no evidence that Martin was going to break into anybody's house.

Also, one final note. If you believe that just sticking to the "me and mine" will make you immune to the type of persecution that Zimmerman has faced, you're fooling yourself.

The "if" of your premise is wrong, you only know a few snippets about what I "believe." However, risk management is something to consider when one wishes to engage in white knighthood. Given the outcome, Zimmerman has learned that lesson.

Tic Tac wrote:If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

I doubt God will entertain your prayers as worthy of his consideration. Praying for the demise of another is probably an abuse of prayer.

Bullitt wrote:

Tic Tac wrote:If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

I doubt God will entertain your prayers as worthy of his consideration. Praying for the demise of another is probably an abuse of prayer.

Anyone ever pretending to know what 'god' thinks is particularly objectionable and offensive.

Bullitt wrote:

Tic Tac wrote:If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

I doubt God will entertain your prayers as worthy of his consideration.

"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." - Luke 6:31

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." - Matthew 7:12

MaxBerlin wrote:

Bullitt wrote:

Tic Tac wrote:If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

I doubt God will entertain your prayers as worthy of his consideration. Praying for the demise of another is probably an abuse of prayer.

Anyone ever pretending to know what 'god' thinks is particularly objectionable and offensive.

As are those who pray for the demise of others.

gringo pistolero wrote:

Bullitt wrote:

Tic Tac wrote:If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

I doubt God will entertain your prayers as worthy of his consideration.

"And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." - Luke 6:31

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." - Matthew 7:12

Is it "gringo pislotero" or "gringo sacerdote"? Hope you are having a good Sunday.

You guys need to tone this down. The mods are getting really weary of the personal attacks.

Crossfire wrote:You guys need to tone this down. The mods are getting really weary of the personal attacks.

You know I am getting weary of them too. I was fine here until these TM and GZ threads came about. Seems that a minority opinion here is pilloried with these various pile-ons.

Adios!

Bullitt wrote:

Crossfire wrote:You guys need to tone this down. The mods are getting really weary of the personal attacks.

You know I am getting weary of them too. I was fine here until these TM and GZ threads came about. Seems that a minority opinion here is pilloried with these various pile-ons.

Adios!

Ciao

Now, everyone get back to being civil. As Crossfire stated the Mods are all tired of the bickering. If you can't discuss without attacking and trolling, then move on.

Bullitt wrote:

Tic Tac wrote:If you are ever in trouble, I pray you have neighbors just like you.

I doubt God will entertain your prayers as worthy of his consideration. Praying for the demise of another is probably an abuse of prayer.

I think this is an appropriate prayer to wish on anyone. To a good neighbor, it means "you should have neighbors as good as you". To a bad neighbor, it means "maybe you should be a better neighbor". And the best part of it is, it leaves up to the individual to decide where he/she fits into the picture.

Bullitt wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:...I'm proud of what Zimmerman did. Were I in his place, I very well might have done the same thing. He chose not to stick his head in the sand and let his neighborhood succumb to the "law of the jungle". Yep, he paid a price for it. So did Martin and his family. Sometimes, that happens when one person chooses to obey the law, and another chooses not to.

Your "pride" in what he did is what engenders others to "go on patrol" when they are issued a CHL. It's the harbinger of vigilantism.

I'd say that unfettered thuggery is the harbinger of vigilantism. Zimmerman was not a vigilante. He was observing, and reporting. For that, he was attacked. He defended himself.

Bullitt wrote:

I wonder how many break-ins have occurred at Twin Lakes since this happened.

There's no evidence that Martin was going to break into anybody's house.

That's not what I was implying. My "wondering" was related to whether it might have diminished since those in the neighborhood now completely understand that bad things can happen when you do bad things.

Bullitt wrote:

Also, one final note. If you believe that just sticking to the "me and mine" will make you immune to the type of persecution that Zimmerman has faced, you're fooling yourself.

The "if" of your premise is wrong, you only know a few snippets about what I "believe." However, risk management is something to consider when one wishes to engage in white knighthood. Given the outcome, Zimmerman has learned that lesson.

Yes, he's learned the "lesson" that an over-zealous attorney can make one's life miserable. The lesson that we, as CHL holders, should take from this is that there are those that would wish to see what happened to Zimmerman happen to all of us who would protect ourselves.

However, this story is not yet over. It will be long in the making, and I hope that Zimmerman (and the rest of the country) learns a few more lessons from it.

I hope they learn that a prosecutory who withholds evidence and maliciously proscutes someone for political gain gets held accountable.
I hope that they learn that a race of people do not achieve "justice" through an injustice to one person.

With the outpouring of support that he's seeing, I believe that Zimmerman is also going to learn the lesson that even in the midst of the craziness, there are those that support a man who has done nothing wrong.

We all know one thing. Pulling your weapon and using it will more than likely be the most dramatic and life changing event we'll ever encounter, but we'll still be alive.

Bullitt wrote:And then he did more, like getting out of his car. Zimmerman is innocent of murder, but he is guilty of being stupid.

...Which is not a crime.

bdickens wrote:

Bullitt wrote:And then he did more, like getting out of his car. Zimmerman is innocent of murder, but he is guilty of being stupid.

...Which is not a crime.

Boy, am I glad it's not. I might be spending 10-20 myself.