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Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:07 am
by ShootDontTalk
Oldgringo wrote:Rattlesnakes are just another of God's creatures. They were put here for a reason....as were fire ants and gophers.
You forgot mosquitos. First thing I'm gonna ask Him about.

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:50 am
by talltex
I've killed many of them over the years with .22 rat shot, but the effectiveness is greatly affected by the firearm. Regardless of caliber, the shorter the barrel, the better they work due to the rifling in the barrel. The longer the barrel, the more the pellets are deformed and the rifling spins the pellets outward which causes a poor, widely scattered pattern. I use a snub nose model 34 S&W for .22 caliber and Model 36/60 snub for .38 shotshells and they do a good job at the close ranges they are intended for.

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:06 pm
by Maxwell
krieghoff wrote:
Maxwell wrote:
AlaskanInTexas wrote:Coming from Alaska (where we don't have such unsavory characters) and with a huge snake phobia, I would have started with the .300 win mag at about 500 yards, and then finished it off with as many 12 gauge rounds as it took to turn it into pulp. Then I would have grabbed the flamethrower.
I was raised in South Texas and I fully agree with the above recommendation! :fire Kill 'em! Kill 'em all and by any means necessary! :smash:

That said, I've never heard of a rattler that could strike the 5+ feet of a shovel handle. [/color] I used to carry a couple of rounds of .38 shot shells when I hunted in Travis County but if you want a little more room for safety (me, I like about 10 yards or so, 100 is better...) get a 410.
A rattler can strike up to 2/3 of their length. And they don't have to be coiled in order to do so. We have a lot of them down in this brush country. Personally, I have shot several with .22 rat shot and all that tends to do is pi$$ them off. Though the ranch is miles from anything and noise is a non issue, I still tend to use 22 shorts. Just a habit and it saves my 22LR ammo. :fire
Actually I've heard they can strike a little further than that but that still makes for a 6+ft snake and at that size I don't care WHAT the neighbors hear after the expletives that will be coming out of my mouth! :eek6

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:05 pm
by Dori
Oldgringo wrote:Rattlesnakes are just another of God's creatures.
:iagree:

Shooting a snake because it might bite somebody is a bigger sin than shooting a "snake" fleeing after robbing you.

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:39 am
by talltex
Dori wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:Rattlesnakes are just another of God's creatures.
:iagree:

Shooting a snake because it might bite somebody is a bigger sin than shooting a "snake" fleeing after robbing you.
Well, if you put any credence in predestination, then God's preordained plan, for any of them that come in contact with me, is that they die suddenly. As for it being sinful, I long ago accepted and reconciled myself to the fact of man's sinful nature, and heeding the words of the great Theologian Luther, I shall "go forth and sin boldly" , taking comfort in the belief that we live in a state of Grace. ;-)

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:38 am
by SewTexas
:cheers2: give that man a beer!

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:44 pm
by nightmare
SewTexas wrote::cheers2: give that man a beer!
Alcohol does seem to inspire some to boldly sin like no man has sinned before.

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:15 pm
by texanjoker
Nothing like a good shovel for a snake

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:17 pm
by mojo84
I preferred a hoe when we lived in the city limits. Now, it's whatever gun I have handy if it is a venomous snake. Otherwise, I let them be and move on.

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:21 pm
by talltex
mojo84 wrote:I preferred a hoe when we lived in the city limits. Now, it's whatever gun I have handy if it is a venomous snake. Otherwise, I let them be and move on.
There is actually only one species of snake in Texas...all of the skinny shouldered ankle biters are all just a sub-category of the deadly "CopperheadedWaterRattlers". They may disguise themselves as harmless chicken snakes / rat snakes / common water snakes or anything else, but they don't fool me for a minute. Having stepped on them in dark...had them drop out of a bale of hay when I picked it up...or coiled up under a stack of feed sacks I was loading, I can assure you my heart didn't think of them as harmless. ;-)

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:44 pm
by mojo84
talltex wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I preferred a hoe when we lived in the city limits. Now, it's whatever gun I have handy if it is a venomous snake. Otherwise, I let them be and move on.
There is actually only one species of snake in Texas...all of the skinny shouldered ankle biters are all just a sub-category of the deadly "CopperheadedWaterRattlers". They may disguise themselves as harmless chicken snakes / rat snakes / common water snakes or anything else, but they don't fool me for a minute. Having stepped on them in dark...had them drop out of a bale of hay when I picked it up...or coiled up under a stack of feed sacks I was loading, I can assure you my heart didn't think of them as harmless. ;-)
I do not believe this is accurate. I'll almost stepped on one of these down by the river about a mile from my house. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_snake" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


More info here:
Http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/kids/wild_t ... akes.phtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:18 pm
by talltex
mojo84 wrote:
talltex wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I preferred a hoe when we lived in the city limits. Now, it's whatever gun I have handy if it is a venomous snake. Otherwise, I let them be and move on.
There is actually only one species of snake in Texas...all of the skinny shouldered ankle biters are all just a sub-category of the deadly "CopperheadedWaterRattlers". They may disguise themselves as harmless chicken snakes / rat snakes / common water snakes or anything else, but they don't fool me for a minute. Having stepped on them in dark...had them drop out of a bale of hay when I picked it up...or coiled up under a stack of feed sacks I was loading, I can assure you my heart didn't think of them as harmless. ;-)
I do not believe this is accurate. I'll almost stepped on one of these down by the river about a mile from my house. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_snake" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


More info here:
Http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/kids/wild_t ... akes.phtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sorry Mojo..my comments were "tounge in cheek"...I know most all of the different snakes...born and raised here in the country and been dealing with'em all my life. Just saying that even a chicken snake popping up when you're not expecting it can make you think you're about to have a heart attack. :mrgreen:

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:20 pm
by mojo84
Ahhhh. It flew right over my head. :cheers2:

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:21 pm
by FML
mojo84 wrote:Ahhhh. It flew right over my head. :cheers2:
Flying snakes? :fire

Re: .22 subsonic as snake ammo in suburbs?

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:45 pm
by talltex
FML wrote:
mojo84 wrote:Ahhhh. It flew right over my head. :cheers2:
Flying snakes? :fire
probably where they got the idea for "Snakes on a Plane"... :shock: