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Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:11 pm
by mojo84
McManus is the epitome of a "political police chief".

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:19 pm
by WildBill
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:And the problem with there being trumped up charges so far, is that there haven't been any charges yet. So far, it seems like he was just assaulted under the color of the law and denied his civil rights.
Here it is. The SA Chief Of Police William McManus made this statement. ""If they're questioned by the police in an investigation to determine whether the weapon was loaded or not, they need to comply. As a lawful command or not, they need to comply," said McManus. He obviously doesn't even know the facts of the case and he's off to the races with the "failure to comply" spin.
If you listen to the video, the man states that the gun is loaded.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:29 pm
by nightmare
If a cop in San Antonio asks your religion, are you required to answer? Can they taser you for fun if they don't like the answer?

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:30 pm
by WildBill
nightmare wrote:If a cop in San Antonio asks your religion, are you required to answer? Can they taser you for fun if they don't like the answer?
No. Yes.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:54 pm
by puma guy
WildBill wrote:
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:And the problem with there being trumped up charges so far, is that there haven't been any charges yet. So far, it seems like he was just assaulted under the color of the law and denied his civil rights.
Here it is. The SA Chief Of Police William McManus made this statement. ""If they're questioned by the police in an investigation to determine whether the weapon was loaded or not, they need to comply. As a lawful command or not, they need to comply," said McManus. He obviously doesn't even know the facts of the case and he's off to the races with the "failure to comply" spin.
If you listen to the video, the man states that the gun is loaded.
Yeah! Exactly my point. I didn't count how many times he stated it was loaded but, I bet it's more than the fingers on one hand. This Chief is unworthy of leading a police force in my opinion. Either he's incapable of determining facts or he's lying.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:34 pm
by puma guy
I found this on a search for this incident regarding the planned rally and protest at SA Police Headquarters April 6.

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CJ Grisham -Founder of Open Carry Texas
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Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:13 pm
by kenobi
puma guy wrote:
WildBill wrote:
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:And the problem with there being trumped up charges so far, is that there haven't been any charges yet. So far, it seems like he was just assaulted under the color of the law and denied his civil rights.
Here it is. The SA Chief Of Police William McManus made this statement. ""If they're questioned by the police in an investigation to determine whether the weapon was loaded or not, they need to comply. As a lawful command or not, they need to comply," said McManus. He obviously doesn't even know the facts of the case and he's off to the races with the "failure to comply" spin.
If you listen to the video, the man states that the gun is loaded.
Yeah! Exactly my point. I didn't count how many times he stated it was loaded but, I bet it's more than the fingers on one hand. This Chief is unworthy of leading a police force in my opinion. Either he's incapable of determining facts or he's lying.
Doesn't that make him un comandante perfecto por San Antonio?

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:31 pm
by Beiruty
Loaded or unloaded it is not a crime in Texas. That was unlawful arrest, as simple as that.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:34 pm
by C-dub
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:And the problem with there being trumped up charges so far, is that there haven't been any charges yet. So far, it seems like he was just assaulted under the color of the law and denied his civil rights.
Here it is. The SA Chief Of Police William McManus made this statement. ""If they're questioned by the police in an investigation to determine whether the weapon was loaded or not, they need to comply. As a lawful command or not, they need to comply," said McManus. He obviously doesn't even know the facts of the case and he's off to the races with the "failure to comply" spin.
I wish someone would ask him why they needed to know.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:32 pm
by puma guy
kenobi wrote:
puma guy wrote:
WildBill wrote:
puma guy wrote:
C-dub wrote:And the problem with there being trumped up charges so far, is that there haven't been any charges yet. So far, it seems like he was just assaulted under the color of the law and denied his civil rights.
Here it is. The SA Chief Of Police William McManus made this statement. ""If they're questioned by the police in an investigation to determine whether the weapon was loaded or not, they need to comply. As a lawful command or not, they need to comply," said McManus. He obviously doesn't even know the facts of the case and he's off to the races with the "failure to comply" spin.
If you listen to the video, the man states that the gun is loaded.
Yeah! Exactly my point. I didn't count how many times he stated it was loaded but, I bet it's more than the fingers on one hand. This Chief is unworthy of leading a police force in my opinion. Either he's incapable of determining facts or he's lying.
Doesn't that make him un comandante perfecto por San Antonio?
"rlol" "rlol"

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:42 pm
by gemini
I logged on just to comment on this. Wrote out a couple of paragraphs.
Erased it all. Bottom line is: This is sad. Shame on those LEO's.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:47 pm
by mamabearCali
Shame is right.........if they tazed him for no reason at all.........then assault charges need to be filed on the officer. We do not need officers who amp up a situation and then taze law abiding citizens for giggles.

The police chief is trying CYA. Sadly in this day and age in that city it might work.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:19 pm
by SewTexas
mamabearCali wrote:Shame is right.........if they tazed him for no reason at all.........then assault charges need to be filed on the officer. We do not need officers who amp up a situation and then taze law abiding citizens for giggles.

The police chief is trying CYA. Sadly in this day and age in that city it might work.

McManus has been doing alot of CYA, lately......

when he started his job, he was good, I really liked him, he very quickly became a politician, it's past time for him to go, unfortunately.

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:51 pm
by cb1000rider
You don't get to chief in a big city without being a politician.
Would we really expect a police chief to say, "if the command is unlawful, you can ignore it" - 'cause that would work out well for him politically... And work out well for most of the not-so-bright people that get arrested practically.

I'm waiting for the civil suit on this one...
How do you explain use of a tazer and no changes?

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:13 am
by puma guy
cb1000rider wrote:You don't get to chief in a big city without being a politician.
Would we really expect a police chief to say, "if the command is unlawful, you can ignore it" - 'cause that would work out well for him politically... And work out well for most of the not-so-bright people that get arrested practically.

I'm waiting for the civil suit on this one...
How do you explain use of a tazer and no changes?
In this case the Chief McManus is blowing smoke. Mr. Vichique "complied" every time they asked if the gun was loaded. He replied "yes" every time asked. I too am waiting for the lawsuit and I hope they don't try prosecute him.