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SewTexas wrote:

jmra wrote:

MotherBear wrote:I'd like to know more about the nature of the field trip. If it was an outdoor activity in the sun all day, I can say from personal experience that one application of sunscreen wouldn't be enough for me. I burn easily and have frequently gotten burned due to forgetting to reapply sunscreen (usually at the beginning of the summer when I've gotten complacent). It doesn't have to be a water activity; a day at the zoo or a field day without much shade would do it too. When you figure in the time between when the girl left home and when she was likely getting the most sun exposure, applying it before school just isn't an adequate option. Usually about 4 hours is the limit, assuming water isn't involved. If sunscreen was applied even as late as 8 a.m., it'd be wearing off early enough that she wouldn't have protection from afternoon sun.

To be fair, I don't wear sunscreen every time I go outside. But if I'm going to be out in the sun for several hours at this time of year, I WILL burn if I do not apply and reapply sunscreen. My oldest has my complexion and is the same way.

What kind of sunscreen are you using? A generous coating of waterproof spf 50 should last all day. I used to spend 10 hrs a day on a flight line with a single application in the hot Southeast without burning and I am very light complected.
But, if I felt that my child needed additional applications you can bet your bottom dollar I would be on the field trip applying that application myself.

and your method is the only one that works
No, but it is an effective method that would have kept the child from being burned.
and too bad if this mother is a single mother working an hourly job
I have yet to meet a single mother working an hourly job who couldn't make it to their child's field trip if they made it a priority.
and too bad if this child is has a pale complexion and blond hair (which means easier to burn if you don't catch my meaning)
You might want to search my posts for a pic of my oldest son.
you keep saying that you want the parent involved, but when the parent tried to get involved and send the sunscreen it wasn't allowed
Wrong, she didn't attempt to send sunscreen because she knew from the beginning of the year she couldn't. She could have gotten a prescription from the doctor for sunscreen which would have forced the school to apply sunscreen or she could have attended the trip. Instead she chose to do nothing until after her child was burned.....this is the problem with government schools, the won't let the kids have sunscreen or aspirin, but they'll sure as heck give them condoms and tell them how to get an abortion without their parents knowing.
This is simply not true. See previous post by N5WD

jmra wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

jmra wrote:I would be willing to bet if this same mother's child had been accidentally sprayed in the face by another child applying sunscreen she would be filing a lawsuit as we speak. People complain about the rules but ultimately the schools are darned if they do and darned if they don't.

If an organization can't operate without being sued, then perhaps it ought not to be operating at all, at least not with public funding.

You do realize anyone can sue anyone for any reason or no reason? Your statement is simply irrational.

stavos wrote:I'm waiting for "the rest of the story" before I blame anybody.

Did the school confiscate the sunsceen the parent sent with their child?

Did the parent apply suncreen that morning but the child burned anyway?

Did the parent make no real effort to protect their child from sunburn?

Dave2 wrote:

jmra wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

jmra wrote:I would be willing to bet if this same mother's child had been accidentally sprayed in the face by another child applying sunscreen she would be filing a lawsuit as we speak. People complain about the rules but ultimately the schools are darned if they do and darned if they don't.

If an organization can't operate without being sued, then perhaps it ought not to be operating at all, at least not with public funding.

You do realize anyone can sue anyone for any reason or no reason? Your statement is simply irrational.

Yeah, but not everything will stand up in court. They're avoiding one lawsuit/medical crisis (Johnny gives Suzy sunscreen and causes a rash or something) by inviting another (Suzy gets burned to a crisp).

jmra wrote: Don't know what kind of sunscreen you are using but unless my kids are at a water park, a good coating in the morning will adequately protect them all day in the sun.
Regardless if it is a bad policy or not, the mom knew the rules and failed to take appropriate steps to protect her child. That's on her, not the school.
I can almost assure you that this schools policy was the result of a lawsuit filed by some other irresponsible parent that expected the school to protect their child from exposure to said sunscreen.

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mamabearCali wrote:

jmra wrote: Don't know what kind of sunscreen you are using but unless my kids are at a water park, a good coating in the morning will adequately protect them all day in the sun.
Regardless if it is a bad policy or not, the mom knew the rules and failed to take appropriate steps to protect her child. That's on her, not the school.
I can almost assure you that this schools policy was the result of a lawsuit filed by some other irresponsible parent that expected the school to protect their child from exposure to said sunscreen.

I have used many different types of sunscreen. One coating per day does it when the temp is 80 degrees and they will be playing at a place that is partially shaded, like a park. When it is 100+ (like it often is in TX) my family needs one coat in the morning, one coat at noon, one coat at 3 pm. If I just did the one coat in the morning two of my children would be lobsters by the end of the day.

As I read the story the mom tried to protect her child. But the school policy gave her precious few options. It is a bad policy. It is a lazy policy. It is a policy for people who do not want to have to supervise children, but rather have a one size fits all perspective. I have taught in schools where we put sunscreen on three year olds everyday twice a day (kids unable to put it on themselves). It was a pain, but no one ever got sprayed in the face, and no one ever got fried.

Captain Matt wrote:Are field trips still optional?

jmra wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:

jmra wrote: Don't know what kind of sunscreen you are using but unless my kids are at a water park, a good coating in the morning will adequately protect them all day in the sun.
Regardless if it is a bad policy or not, the mom knew the rules and failed to take appropriate steps to protect her child. That's on her, not the school.
I can almost assure you that this schools policy was the result of a lawsuit filed by some other irresponsible parent that expected the school to protect their child from exposure to said sunscreen.

I have used many different types of sunscreen. One coating per day does it when the temp is 80 degrees and they will be playing at a place that is partially shaded, like a park. When it is 100+ (like it often is in TX) my family needs one coat in the morning, one coat at noon, one coat at 3 pm. If I just did the one coat in the morning two of my children would be lobsters by the end of the day.

As I read the story the mom tried to protect her child. But the school policy gave her precious few options. It is a bad policy. It is a lazy policy. It is a policy for people who do not want to have to supervise children, but rather have a one size fits all perspective. I have taught in schools where we put sunscreen on three year olds everyday twice a day (kids unable to put it on themselves). It was a pain, but no one ever got sprayed in the face, and no one ever got fried.

I listed a multitude of options that were available to the parent. She is the one who chose to put her child at risk by doing nothing.