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Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:51 pm
by The Annoyed Man
rotor wrote:There are two uses for narcotics, the addicts that need it for their high and those with pain, severe and chronic, cancer, etc. that must have legitimate pain relief. In the wisdom of the feds they made it almost impossible for doctors to continue to supply the legitimate users of narcotics last October ( yes I am talking about hydrocodone). So, these poor souls that struggle with unbearable pain have a difficult time getting meds courtesy of the feds. But at the same time they are relaxing prosecution of the recreational use of MJ with questionable medical value. It's okay to get high but live with the pain according to the DEA. I hope that people here are not of the feeling that they are safe using and carrying at the same time.
That is me. I just picked up a new scrip today, for something that I ran out of last week, because my doctor was out of town for the week. It was a tough week. Also, because it is such a PIA to get it refilled, I stretch it out and make the prescription last longer than the dosing instructions on the bottle. I make deliberate decisions to live with
some pain, so that I don't have to be out of stock when the pain gets really bad. And by the way, they aren't actually refills. Each one is its own discreet prescription. It is actually making me consider changing doctors, for the simple reason that I live in Grapevine, but my Doctor's office relocated to Keller a while back. As long as I only have to drive there a couple of times a year for my checkups, I'm OK with the distance. But if I have to go visit him each time I need to get a renewed prescription of pain meds, then it is a problem. So I'm considering changing providers to a doctor in the Grapevine area.
Yeah, the DEA made an enemy out of me for life in October.
Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:08 pm
by rotor
The Annoyed Man wrote:rotor wrote:There are two uses for narcotics, the addicts that need it for their high and those with pain, severe and chronic, cancer, etc. that must have legitimate pain relief. In the wisdom of the feds they made it almost impossible for doctors to continue to supply the legitimate users of narcotics last October ( yes I am talking about hydrocodone). So, these poor souls that struggle with unbearable pain have a difficult time getting meds courtesy of the feds. But at the same time they are relaxing prosecution of the recreational use of MJ with questionable medical value. It's okay to get high but live with the pain according to the DEA. I hope that people here are not of the feeling that they are safe using and carrying at the same time.
That is me. I just picked up a new scrip today, for something that I ran out of last week, because my doctor was out of town for the week. It was a tough week. Also, because it is such a PIA to get it refilled, I stretch it out and make the prescription last longer than the dosing instructions on the bottle. I make deliberate decisions to live with
some pain, so that I don't have to be out of stock when the pain gets really bad. And by the way, they aren't actually refills. Each one is its own discreet prescription. It is actually making me consider changing doctors, for the simple reason that I live in Grapevine, but my Doctor's office relocated to Keller a while back. As long as I only have to drive there a couple of times a year for my checkups, I'm OK with the distance. But if I have to go visit him each time I need to get a renewed prescription of pain meds, then it is a problem. So I'm considering changing providers to a doctor in the Grapevine area.
Yeah, the DEA made an enemy out of me for life in October.
TAM, I really feel sorry for you and the millions of people being hurt by this obnoxious rule by the feds without thought for the misery that it causes. We know that more people are killed by legal drugs than illegal drugs but the feds have gone overboard and the innocent people with severe pain suffer. The doctors of course are the ones being blamed for not giving refills and fewer doctors are willing to take on patients like yourself because of the liability. This is a terrible problem. To me this is more important than the possible benefit (although there may be some) of marijuana being used for medicinal use. I hope that people write their legislators and complain and ask for a reasonable change back to end the suffering this has brought.
Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:50 pm
by Bitter Clinger
What possible harm could a little pot smoking lead to?

Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:26 am
by rentz
The Annoyed Man wrote:rotor wrote:There are two uses for narcotics, the addicts that need it for their high and those with pain, severe and chronic, cancer, etc. that must have legitimate pain relief. In the wisdom of the feds they made it almost impossible for doctors to continue to supply the legitimate users of narcotics last October ( yes I am talking about hydrocodone). So, these poor souls that struggle with unbearable pain have a difficult time getting meds courtesy of the feds. But at the same time they are relaxing prosecution of the recreational use of MJ with questionable medical value. It's okay to get high but live with the pain according to the DEA. I hope that people here are not of the feeling that they are safe using and carrying at the same time.
That is me. I just picked up a new scrip today, for something that I ran out of last week, because my doctor was out of town for the week. It was a tough week. Also, because it is such a PIA to get it refilled, I stretch it out and make the prescription last longer than the dosing instructions on the bottle. I make deliberate decisions to live with
some pain, so that I don't have to be out of stock when the pain gets really bad. And by the way, they aren't actually refills. Each one is its own discreet prescription. It is actually making me consider changing doctors, for the simple reason that I live in Grapevine, but my Doctor's office relocated to Keller a while back. As long as I only have to drive there a couple of times a year for my checkups, I'm OK with the distance. But if I have to go visit him each time I need to get a renewed prescription of pain meds, then it is a problem. So I'm considering changing providers to a doctor in the Grapevine area.
Yeah, the DEA made an enemy out of me for life in October.
I'd be willing to bet that IF medicinal marijuana passes in Texas it would still be easier to get than RX narcotics.
Anytime I get pain or migraine meds i've got to take the script in person to the pharmacy instead of it being called in or faxed, its such a pain.
Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:31 am
by winters
The comments on this thread crack me up. people complain about how hard it is to get oxy and whatever. I bet for every legit medical pot smoker there is 50 just wanting it to get high. Presciption drugs have been made hard to get by people who are just looking for a high.
Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:20 pm
by Roger Howard
winters wrote:So how do you fill out the 4473 form when you buy a gun without breaking the law when it asks:
"Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"
This is a federal form not state so how does it being legal at the state level matter?
Other then this I'm not going to express my opinion about marijuana users as I'm sure it would get me banned.Im sure this question will get the arm chair lawyers to post.
The question on 4473 ask if your an
unlawful user. Someone with a prescription would be a
lawful user.
Just my 2c. IANAL
Re: Medical Cannabis bill
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:34 pm
by ScottDLS
Roger Howard wrote:winters wrote:So how do you fill out the 4473 form when you buy a gun without breaking the law when it asks:
"Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"
This is a federal form not state so how does it being legal at the state level matter?
Other then this I'm not going to express my opinion about marijuana users as I'm sure it would get me banned.Im sure this question will get the arm chair lawyers to post.
The question on 4473 ask if your an
unlawful user. Someone with a prescription would be a
lawful user.
Just my 2c. IANAL
Not under current federal law. I liked the one they had in the '80's... Are you a habitual drunkard?
