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Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:33 pm
by mojo84
sugar land dave wrote:mojo84 wrote:Taypo wrote:
So let me get this straight:
Jade Helm 15 is a massive domestic counterinsurgency operation involving the entire SF community and private organizations...but a State Guard commander is going to keep tabs on it?
Guess it's better than just making tinfoil hats.
but I had my tinfoil hat ready to go!
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Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:48 pm
by Taypo
RoyGBiv wrote:Taypo wrote:
So let me get this straight:
Jade Helm 15 is a massive domestic counterinsurgency operation involving the entire SF community and private organizations...but a State Guard commander is going to keep tabs on it?
Pretty embarrassing. Yes?
I thought more of Abbott.
Maybe I'm missing the logic of this move?
There's no logic to it. If such a conspiracy exists, sending a career reservist with no tabs to get to the bottom of it is about as useful as peeing into Lake Ray Hubbard to raise the level of the lake.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:58 pm
by williamkevin
Taypo wrote:RoyGBiv wrote:Taypo wrote:
So let me get this straight:
Jade Helm 15 is a massive domestic counterinsurgency operation involving the entire SF community and private organizations...but a State Guard commander is going to keep tabs on it?
Pretty embarrassing. Yes?
I thought more of Abbott.
Maybe I'm missing the logic of this move?
There's no logic to it. If such a conspiracy exists, sending a career reservist with no tabs to get to the bottom of it is about as useful as peeing into Lake Ray Hubbard to raise the level of the lake.
I think it's more about the resources available to him than anything else. By tasking the Commander of the State Guard (Who answers to the TAG), he is allowing the use of the resources available without tasking the part of the force (Army or Air National Guard) that also has a federal mission. The State Guard has no federal mission, and answers ONLY to the TAG. MG Betty is no slouch....
https://txmf.us/txsg-command-group
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:44 pm
by ShootDontTalk
Looking at obvious facts:
1) It seems obvious the "plumbing problem" story is false. Do I have hard evidence? No. Why then the closings in such widely separated places?
2) There have been so called "labor activist" protests at a few WalMarts around the country of late. WalMart reportedly will not allow unionization of their employees.
3) So why close six stores all on the same day for the same reason for the same length of time? It is a message (written in blood, they used to say). A message for us? No. A message for WalMart employees that they could be next. The message is simple: talk about unionizing and you'll be out of a job like these poor souls. Harsh but very effective.
Given the track records of unions, I can't really say I blame WalMart. Turning WalMart stores into FEMA camps? No. We only do that with football stadiums!
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:47 am
by Taypo
Its a sad day when martial law is a more believable prospect than Walmart being mean.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:54 pm
by mojo84
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:37 am
by VMI77
Cancelled in Victoria and Goliad for some reason.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:44 am
by mojo84
I saw that. Curious why.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:16 am
by Taypo
mojo84 wrote:I saw that. Curious why.
If I had to guess, the units responsible for that area may have become unavailable - deployment or something that takes a precedent to training
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:34 am
by joe817
Maybe they found out how many CHL holders are in the 2 towns and didn't want to try any funny stuff?
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:33 am
by VMI77
joe817 wrote:Maybe they found out how many CHL holders are in the 2 towns and didn't want to try any funny stuff?
Probably not. I think the per capita number of CHL holders in both places is less than the state average, and significantly less than in urban areas like Houston. I don't remember the numbers for Goliad and Victoria counties, but last time I checked the rate was 1 CHL for every 100 people in Lavaca county.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:48 pm
by SewTexas
VMI77 wrote:joe817 wrote:Maybe they found out how many CHL holders are in the 2 towns and didn't want to try any funny stuff?
Probably not. I think the per capita number of CHL holders in both places is less than the state average, and significantly less than in urban areas like Houston. I don't remember the numbers for Goliad and Victoria counties, but last time I checked the rate was 1 CHL for every 100 people in Lavaca county.
CHL maybe, but what about long guns? I bet those outnumber citizens.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:16 pm
by C-dub
In similar news, have any of you seen this before?
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/05/14/video-sp ... use-raids/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In yet another disconcerting sign of Obama’s America, Special Forces out of Fort Bragg are training with SWAT officers in South Carolina this week for house to house raids.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:21 pm
by Taypo
C-dub wrote:In similar news, have any of you seen this before?
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/05/14/video-sp ... use-raids/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In yet another disconcerting sign of Obama’s America, Special Forces out of Fort Bragg are training with SWAT officers in South Carolina this week for house to house raids.
Its not any different than training army medics in the E.R. at a major trauma center. If you want to learn how to do something, go where the action is and find the guys who know how to do it.
Pretty sure this isn't something new, but Jade Helm is driving these people nuts and they're finding conspiracy theories everywhere.
Re: Jade Helm 15, Walmart store closings, martial law etc
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:36 pm
by C-dub
Taypo wrote:C-dub wrote:In similar news, have any of you seen this before?
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/05/14/video-sp ... use-raids/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In yet another disconcerting sign of Obama’s America, Special Forces out of Fort Bragg are training with SWAT officers in South Carolina this week for house to house raids.
Its not any different than training army medics in the E.R. at a major trauma center. If you want to learn how to do something, go where the action is and find the guys who know how to do it.
Pretty sure this isn't something new, but Jade Helm is driving these people nuts and they're finding conspiracy theories everywhere.
I thought about that and also really wondered who was training who. With the amount of urban combat folks are seeing over in the sand they may have more experience than many stateside LE agencies.
