Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry
Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:38 am
Can the amendment stand up to a Point of Order on germainness of the amendment? maybe if it's done in committee it's not an issue??
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My understanding is that it will have to be an up or down vote, why would we think it will not be a up vote? Both sides have already passed such measures.LSUTiger wrote:I am for Campus Carry, I am for "shall not be infringed" but why do I have the feeling this is a recipe for disaster, ending up with nothing?
Can they vote down the campus carry amendment and still move forward with HB910 in the Senate as they should be doing now? Does this put OC in jeopardy? Could this be a potential lose-lose situation?
Or is it simply a last ditch end run slick political maneuver, for win-win (OC and Campus) if it works and win-lose (still get OC but not campus) if it doesn't work, to get a little lagniappe ?
The House parliamentarian has already ruled that campus-carry is relevant to HB910. If a point-of-order is raised in the Senate, then it can be sustained or overruled. If it's sustained, then campus-carry will not be added to HB910. If it is overruled, campus-carry will be added to HB910 and it will go to the House.jerry_r60 wrote:Can the amendment stand up to a Point of Order on germainness of the amendment? maybe if it's done in committee it's not an issue??
Papa_Tiger wrote:Well that is one way to get around Strauss and the UT regents and it allows the Senate to look like heroes even though the bill that eventually passes will originate from the House.
I have certainly received quite an education in politics watching this session and these bills in particular.
Who can raise a point of order....and who decides if it is overruled or sustained and based on what? That seems to be the biggest hurdle.Charles L. Cotton wrote:The House parliamentarian has already ruled that campus-carry is relevant to HB910. If a point-of-order is raised in the Senate, then it can be sustained or overruled. If it's sustained, then campus-carry will not be added to HB910. If it is overruled, campus-carry will be added to HB910 and it will go to the House.jerry_r60 wrote:Can the amendment stand up to a Point of Order on germainness of the amendment? maybe if it's done in committee it's not an issue??
If the House concurs, then both open-carry and campus-carry pass and go to the Governor. If the House does not concur, then it goes to a conference committee where campus-carry can be stripped from HB910.
Chas.
Probably should be a separate thread, but sounds like that would be an improvement for Harris CountyELB wrote:I just noticed this article (published today) about the author of HB937, campus carry. He's going to leave the Legislature to run for Sheriff of Harris County:
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Is Strauss capitulating to save face from being outmaneuvered? Sounds like a standalone Campus Carry bill (SB11 presumably) might actually hit the House floor after all.Rep. Allen Fletcher, the House’s author of so-called “campus carry,” told multiple news outlets on Wednesday that he had struck a deal to fast-track the proposal by attaching it in the Senate to another high-profile gun bill that’s already been approved by the House.
But maybe not so fast.
Sen. Craig Estes – who would carry the other bill, open carry – said on Thursday that Fletcher was “a little premature in that analysis.” He said pro-gun lawmakers were indeed looking at multiple possibilities to move forward, but that “nothing has been decided.”
And Estes, R-Wichita Falls, was quick to point out that the House could still act on the Senate’s versions of campus carry and open carry.
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House Calendars Committee Chairman Todd Hunter said earlier in the week that he wasn’t sure when campus carry might reach the floor. He said the hold-up was just a timing issue, as the panel might look to group several gun bills onto to the same day.
I doubt Straus sees it that way. Whether you like his politics or not, he's a smart guy. He may just see the momentum behind these bills and is not prepared to further oppose them. Very different tone than "capitulation". He likely has bigger fish to fry. In the face of mounting pressure to pass these gun bills, it MAY be as simple as a decision to spend his political capital elsewhere.v7a wrote:Is Strauss capitulating to save face from being outmaneuvered? Sounds like a standalone Campus Carry bill (SB11 presumably) might actually hit the House floor after all.