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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:43 pm
by Thomas Hagemeier
The anti gun crowd can't stop anything at this point. They're greatly outnumbered in emails, faxes and calls from those who believe in the constitution and don't drink the sheep kool aid.
What I fear now is clerical error sabotage and certain representatives paid off by bloomberg to stall for time with amendments, procedural gimmicks and other legislative tactics.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:45 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
I agree with you, but I'd really like to know for sure either way. I'm sick of this weird in-the-know crap...
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:52 pm
by Bladed
Xikar wrote:The anti gun crowd can't stop anything at this point. They're greatly outnumbered in emails, faxes and calls from those who believe in the constitution and don't drink the sheep kool aid.
What I fear now is clerical error sabotage and certain representatives paid off by bloomberg to stall for time with amendments, procedural gimmicks and other legislative tactics.
Nobody is being paid off. Campus carry has enough opponents who will gladly and freely throw up procedural challenges, without the need for anyone to risk an ethics violation.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 4:03 pm
by Thomas Hagemeier
Bladed wrote:
Nobody is being paid off. Campus carry has enough opponents who will gladly and freely throw up procedural challenges, without the need for anyone to risk an ethics violation.
Don't be so naive. Corruption is alive and well in government. It happens. It's hard to prove if somebody brings up formal charges especially if it's some politicians acting in the best interest of the liberal media who will not cover it.
Benghazi?
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 4:18 pm
by Bladed
Xikar wrote:Bladed wrote:
Nobody is being paid off. Campus carry has enough opponents who will gladly and freely throw up procedural challenges, without the need for anyone to risk an ethics violation.
Don't be so naive. Corruption is alive and well in government. It happens. It's hard to prove if somebody brings up formal charges especially if it's some politicians acting in the best interest of the liberal media who will not cover it.
Benghazi?
Corruption isn't nearly as prevalent as are baseless conspiracy theories about corruption. In this scenario, there is absolutely nothing to be gained by offering to pay off a legislator. Numerous legislators, including Trey Martinez Fischer--the master of points of order--are against this bill and will do everything in their power to stop it. What would Bloomberg gain by bribing someone (at the risk of a felony conviction and prison time for both the briber and the bribee) to do the exact same thing?
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 4:42 pm
by Thomas Hagemeier
Bladed wrote:
Corruption isn't nearly as prevalent as are baseless conspiracy theories about corruption.
That's conjecture.
In this scenario, there is absolutely nothing to be gained by offering to pay off a legislator.
Furthering his agenda.
What would Bloomberg gain by bribing someone
Furthering his agenda.
(at the risk of a felony conviction
"I am not a crook."
"I didn't have sex with that woman."
"It wasn't a terrorist action, but an out of control protest due to a youtube video."
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:21 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Xikar wrote:Bladed wrote:
Corruption isn't nearly as prevalent as are baseless conspiracy theories about corruption.
That's conjecture.
In this scenario, there is absolutely nothing to be gained by offering to pay off a legislator.
Furthering his agenda.
What would Bloomberg gain by bribing someone
Furthering his agenda.
(at the risk of a felony conviction
"I am not a crook."
"I didn't have sex with that woman."
"It wasn't a terrorist action, but an out of control protest due to a youtube video."
This isnt the Natuinal Inquirer. Take this stuff to OCT's Facebook page where it will sell.
Chas.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:22 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Bladed wrote:Xikar wrote:Bladed wrote:
Nobody is being paid off. Campus carry has enough opponents who will gladly and freely throw up procedural challenges, without the need for anyone to risk an ethics violation.
Don't be so naive. Corruption is alive and well in government. It happens. It's hard to prove if somebody brings up formal charges especially if it's some politicians acting in the best interest of the liberal media who will not cover it.
Benghazi?
Corruption isn't nearly as prevalent as are baseless conspiracy theories about corruption. In this scenario, there is absolutely nothing to be gained by offering to pay off a legislator. Numerous legislators, including Trey Martinez Fischer--the master of points of order--are against this bill and will do everything in their power to stop it. What would Bloomberg gain by bribing someone (at the risk of a felony conviction and prison time for both the briber and the bribee) to do the exact same thing?
Right.
Chas.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:33 pm
by der Teufel
I'm just an uneducated (regarding the Texas Legislative process) observer, but to me things are looking hopeful. The worry about the house having to vote again on HB910 and the concern about Straus' commitment to bring up Campus Carry in the House are real concerns, but not big ones to me so far. Here's some excerpts from the CBS affiliate in Dallas —
The Senate passed House Bill 910 Friday night, a major step toward allowing the licensed open carry of handguns. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has pledged to sign the bill into law, which still needs a final vote in the House.
Before the open carry debate, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who presides over the Senate, said House leaders also promised to pass a bill allowing concealed handguns in college classrooms. A spokesman for House Speaker Joe Straus confirmed the campus carry bill will get a vote before the session ends June 1.
I realize I know less than most on these forums, but I find these sort of articles from a somewhat mainstream source reassuring.
The article is at:
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Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:26 pm
by TexasJohnBoy
I just hope Straus follows through with his promise on Campus Carry. Only a few hits left to get it on the calendar I think...
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:40 pm
by NotRPB
Calendars cmte mtg just announced.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:47 pm
by joe817
NotRPB wrote:Calendars cmte mtg just announced.
Thanks for the head up. I guess it will be a couple of days before we know what bills they choose to place on the calendars. They still haven't published the minutes for yesterday's Calendars Committee meeting. Maybe tomorrow.

Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:51 pm
by Thomas Hagemeier
This isnt the Natuinal Inquirer. Take this stuff to OCT's Facebook page where it will sell.
Chas.
I'm not affiliated with OCT, I'm just exercising my first amendment rights, and you have a right to disbelieve all the evidence pouring in about Benghazi if YOU choose.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:55 pm
by v7a
Xikar wrote:I'm not affiliated with OCT, I'm just exercising my first amendment rights
This will probably come as a shock to you, but this forum is not operated by the government. Thus your 1st Amendment rights are irrelevant here.
Re: Campus Carry -- Where Are We Now?
Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:57 pm
by jmra
Xikar wrote:
This isnt the Natuinal Inquirer. Take this stuff to OCT's Facebook page where it will sell.
Chas.
I'm not affiliated with OCT, I'm just exercising my first amendment rights, and you have a right to disbelieve all the evidence pouring in about Benghazi if YOU choose.
OCT is Open Carry Texas. Chas is the owner of the forum.