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Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:50 pm
by VMI77
JALLEN wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
Having a son who is a recent graduate let me say: the UT you graduated from no longer exists. Oh, there may be some critical thinking going on in a few departments.....but the people who are the problem generally aren't part of those departments. Some of the classes my son had to endure were horrific assaults on the intelligence of anyone with functioning brain cells. No critical thinking was in evidence in most of the liberal arts classrooms. This btw, did not end at UT. He graduated from one of the country's top law schools this year and he didn't see much critical thinking among the students there either. 99% of them simply parrot the progressive mantras. Today's college students and graduates, and of course their professors, may well be the biggest existential threat to the Republic that has ever existed.
What "critical thinking" was he missing? What is "critical thinking?"
Pretty much what I said....they recite the prog mantras. They're unable to apply logic and get angry and frustrated when confronted with it.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:15 pm
by abom2
I am left with the impression that these "educated educators" are prone to rash outbursts without any calm or rational thought before action. I am glad that these individuals in their unreasonable and irrational fears of firearms act as warning flags for the authorities to deny them access to any type of device that may maim, hurt, insult, alarm any other human being currently alive or could possibly be alive in the future. :headscratch

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:38 pm
by baldeagle
doncb wrote:The longest speech came from history professor Jorge Cañizares-Esguerra, who said he was not speaking for Gun-Free UT, but wanted to make a personal statement about gun culture.

"America has all-along been about the sheer display of white male power with guns over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now," said Cañizares-Esguerra. "Classroom carry is aggressive intrusion of the vigilante rights of the largely white minority into our living rooms, our offices, our dorms, my classroom.

"They claim this is all about protecting security. And crime, the mass shooters. No. This is all about authority and race. This is about the symbolic struggle to show who is really in control," he added, to applause.
This is the kind of racist crap that makes me want to scream. Please tell me, Professor Jorge, has no Indian, slave, female, Mexican, Asian, African American or Arab EVER savagely killed a white person? Has any of them ever done it with a firearm? (Please don't force me to prove how wrong you are, because I will rain down stories on your head until you beg for mercy.)

The outrageous racism of these kinds of people toward white people creates a greater divide between races than ANYTHING the white man has ever done.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:26 pm
by Deltaboy
Let them pound Sand.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:39 pm
by srothstein
doncb wrote:The longest speech came from history professor Jorge Cañizares-Esguerra, who said he was not speaking for Gun-Free UT, but wanted to make a personal statement about gun culture.

"America has all-along been about the sheer display of white male power with guns over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now," said Cañizares-Esguerra. "Classroom carry is aggressive intrusion of the vigilante rights of the largely white minority into our living rooms, our offices, our dorms, my classroom.

"They claim this is all about protecting security. And crime, the mass shooters. No. This is all about authority and race. This is about the symbolic struggle to show who is really in control," he added, to applause.
It seems to me that the correct answer to this issue, if it really were about race and to show who is in control, would be for all of the Indians, females, Mexicans, Asians, African Americans, and Arabs on campus to get licenses and show that they were really the ones in control.

Since none of them have done this, I must assume this issue is a smoke screen for other issues they have with firearms that they cannot back up.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:59 pm
by hovercat
Seems that he is afraid of white males.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:22 pm
by Bladed
DAILY CALLER: "Profs Write Openly Racist Manifesto Against Campus Concealed Carry" - http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/profs ... pus-carry/

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:43 pm
by Pawpaw
srothstein wrote:
doncb wrote:The longest speech came from history professor Jorge Cañizares-Esguerra, who said he was not speaking for Gun-Free UT, but wanted to make a personal statement about gun culture.

"America has all-along been about the sheer display of white male power with guns over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now," said Cañizares-Esguerra. "Classroom carry is aggressive intrusion of the vigilante rights of the largely white minority into our living rooms, our offices, our dorms, my classroom.

"They claim this is all about protecting security. And crime, the mass shooters. No. This is all about authority and race. This is about the symbolic struggle to show who is really in control," he added, to applause.
It seems to me that the correct answer to this issue, if it really were about race and to show who is in control, would be for all of the Indians, females, Mexicans, Asians, African Americans, and Arabs on campus to get licenses and show that they were really the ones in control.

Since none of them have done this, I must assume this issue is a smoke screen for other issues they have with firearms that they cannot back up.
Keep in mind that the professor who wrote that is undoubtedly a democrat. The same party that brought us a war over slavery, the KKK, segregation and a host of other ills. They are also fueling the racial divide that is currently threatening to tear this country apart.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:18 pm
by DocV
Bladed wrote:DAILY CALLER: "Profs Write Openly Racist Manifesto Against Campus Concealed Carry" - http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/profs ... pus-carry/
..our individual first -amendment [sic] right to control the bond of trust and community that is constitutionally under our care...
say what?

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:40 pm
by Soap
doncb wrote:"If the administration does not heed their concerns, Snodderly added, the group may sue, claiming the law infringes on the members' rights."

I think my rights have been infringed on for a lot longer. Go ahead and sue.


"We are armed with reason. We are armed with data. We are armed with passion. We are armed with longevity," said Moore. "And we will make this change."

You're unreasonable, your data sucks and good luck on the "change".


The longest speech came from history professor Jorge Cañizares-Esguerra, who said he was not speaking for Gun-Free UT, but wanted to make a personal statement about gun culture.

"America has all-along been about the sheer display of white male power with guns over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now," said Cañizares-Esguerra. "Classroom carry is aggressive intrusion of the vigilante rights of the largely white minority into our living rooms, our offices, our dorms, my classroom.

"They claim this is all about protecting security. And crime, the mass shooters. No. This is all about authority and race. This is about the symbolic struggle to show who is really in control," he added, to applause.

Ah, I knew racism would get thrown in somewhere. Mr. Cañizares-Esguerra, if you don't like it, head south. Oh, wait, things are worse south of the border where mostly criminals have guns. I know you'd feel safer there though.


I can't believe the moronic statements some of those people make. You'd think you were in California. I had not planned on OC, but I just might have to OC on a campus, just to see them wet themselves. :anamatedbanana
He actually got cheered for being racist and maing a racist statement that makes no sense what so ever. I just threw up reading that.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:09 am
by VoiceofReason
I know I am being juvenile, I can't help it. Max Snodderly "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol" "rlol"

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:24 am
by K.Mooneyham
What cracks me up the most about these leftwing nutters is that the philosophies they espouse and purport to follow were mostly written by, wait for it............white European men! Marx and Engels, Gramsci, the members of the "Frankfurt School", and a whole host of others, all white guys. The entire thing is absolutely insane. :confused5 :crazy: :banghead:

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:13 pm
by JP171
Soap wrote:
doncb wrote:"If the administration does not heed their concerns, Snodderly added, the group may sue, claiming the law infringes on the members' rights."

I think my rights have been infringed on for a lot longer. Go ahead and sue.


"We are armed with reason. We are armed with data. We are armed with passion. We are armed with longevity," said Moore. "And we will make this change."

You're unreasonable, your data sucks and good luck on the "change".


The longest speech came from history professor Jorge Cañizares-Esguerra, who said he was not speaking for Gun-Free UT, but wanted to make a personal statement about gun culture.

"America has all-along been about the sheer display of white male power with guns over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now," said Cañizares-Esguerra. "Classroom carry is aggressive intrusion of the vigilante rights of the largely white minority into our living rooms, our offices, our dorms, my classroom.

"They claim this is all about protecting security. And crime, the mass shooters. No. This is all about authority and race. This is about the symbolic struggle to show who is really in control," he added, to applause.

Ah, I knew racism would get thrown in somewhere. Mr. Cañizares-Esguerra, if you don't like it, head south. Oh, wait, things are worse south of the border where mostly criminals have guns. I know you'd feel safer there though.


I can't believe the moronic statements some of those people make. You'd think you were in California. I had not planned on OC, but I just might have to OC on a campus, just to see them wet themselves. :anamatedbanana
He actually got cheered for being racist and maing a racist statement that makes no sense what so ever. I just threw up reading that.

let me see, first off Jorge is ummmmm wait for it WHITE! and a European descendant oh and on top of that the hypocrite doesn't realize that Hispanic or Mexican isn't a race. man do we have smart well educated people teaching college or some kind of racist rabble?

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:02 pm
by The Annoyed Man
doncb wrote:"If the administration does not heed their concerns, Snodderly added, the group may sue, claiming the law infringes on the members' rights."

I think my rights have been infringed on for a lot longer. Go ahead and sue.


"We are armed with reason. We are armed with data. We are armed with passion. We are armed with longevity," said Moore. "And we will make this change."

You're unreasonable, your data sucks and good luck on the "change".


The longest speech came from history professor Jorge Cañizares-Esguerra, who said he was not speaking for Gun-Free UT, but wanted to make a personal statement about gun culture.

"America has all-along been about the sheer display of white male power with guns over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now," said Cañizares-Esguerra. "Classroom carry is aggressive intrusion of the vigilante rights of the largely white minority into our living rooms, our offices, our dorms, my classroom.

"They claim this is all about protecting security. And crime, the mass shooters. No. This is all about authority and race. This is about the symbolic struggle to show who is really in control," he added, to applause.

Ah, I knew racism would get thrown in somewhere. Mr. Cañizares-Esguerra, if you don't like it, head south. Oh, wait, things are worse south of the border where mostly criminals have guns. I know you'd feel safer there though.


I can't believe the moronic statements some of those people make. You'd think you were in California. I had not planned on OC, but I just might have to OC on a campus, just to see them wet themselves. :anamatedbanana
Uhh.... You'd definitely be arrested....
SB 11 wrote:BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
  • SECTION 1. Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, is amended by adding Section 411.2031 to read as follows:
    • Sec. 411.2031. CARRYING OF HANDGUNS BY LICENSE HOLDERS ON CERTAIN CAMPUSES.
      • (a) For purposes of this section:
        • (1) "Campus" means all land and buildings owned or leased by an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education.
          (2) "Institution of higher education" and "private or independent institution of higher education" have the meanings assigned by Section 61.003, Education Code.
          (3) "Premises" has the meaning assigned by Section 46.035, Penal Code.
        (b) A license holder may carry a concealed handgun on or about the license holder's person while the license holder is on the campus of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education in this state.
And further down the law.....
  • SECTION 4. Section 46.035, Penal Code, is amended by adding Subsections (a-1), (a-2), (a-3), and (l) and amending Subsections (g), (h), and (j) to read as follows:
    • (a-1) Notwithstanding Subsection (a), a license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a partially or wholly visible handgun, regardless of whether the handgun is holstered, on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally or knowingly displays the handgun in plain view of another person:
      • (1) on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education; or
        (2) on any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education.
While I understand your intent, you might want to rethink your tactics.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:23 pm
by Oldgringo
baldeagle wrote:
The outrageous racism of these kinds of people toward white people creates a greater divide between races than ANYTHING the white man has ever done.
:iagree: , and; IMO, creates racism where there was none....in both directions.