Intermediate school posted 30.06 and 30.07

[doncb]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

30.06 sign = no concealed handguns on premises by license holders, or pretty much no guns.

It only prohibits the licensed carry of a concealed gun.

30.07 sign = no open carry by license holders, pretty much, you can carry but concealed.

No pretty much about it. No open carry. Concealed is OK.

Why put up both, doesn't the 30.06 sign make posting the 30.07 sign pointless because with a .07 sign, you have to keep it concealed, and the .06 sign says concealed weapons are not allowed.

You have to put up both if you want to prohibit both. See below.

A 30.06 prohibits concealed carry, not open carry. A 30.07 prohibits open carry, not concealed. If they wish to prohibit both, they must post both signs. HB910.

I think the 30.06 / 30.07 deal is going to cause a lot of confusion. At least initially. A business is going to have a 30.06 posted and someone is going to OC and someone at the business is going to freak out.

[kg5ie]

[treeman]

As I understand current concealed carry law it is OK to have your weapon on you while in school parking lot or even outside on the sidewalk as long as you don't go in the buildings or where a UIL event is being held. The new open carry law allows open carry anywhere concealed carry is legal with the Exception of facilities of higher education which I assume is like a college campus - so will open carry be OK at a public school? If so I think there could be lots of confusion and "freaked out" folks. This Open Carry may be a can of worms for a while and adversly affect concealed carry in my opinion. This might be why a school would consider a 30.07 sign.

[locke_n_load]

As I understand current concealed carry law it is OK to have your weapon on you while in school parking lot or even outside on the sidewalk as long as you don't go in the buildings or where a UIL event is being held. The new open carry law allows open carry anywhere concealed carry is legal with the Exception of facilities of higher education which I assume is like a college campus - so will open carry be OK at a public school? If so I think there could be lots of confusion and "freaked out" folks. This Open Carry may be a can of worms for a while and adversly affect concealed carry in my opinion. This might be why a school would consider a 30.07 sign.

School premises (inside buildings) is against the law, and schools can post 30.06/30.07 on the buildings stating so. However, the law specifically states that public parking lots/sidewalks/etc. are not prohibited. With school property being owned by a subdivision of the state, they cannot post signs prohibiting people from concealed carrying outside of the school. They are not supposed to post 30.07 signs anywhere but on buildings either, but there is currently no punishment for posting signs (SB273 only applies to 30.06/CC), although the signs have no legal binding.
Short answer, yes, it is legal to OC with a license outside of a school. Will someone doing so get some calls to police and have a talking to - most likely, although in some other states it's legal to carry inside the school.

[jed]

....This Open Carry may be a can of worms for a while and adversly affect concealed carry in my opinion.....

In my opinion, OC is about the stupidest thing I have seen. I have yet to come up with any legitimate reason to OC. Also, other than the state's cost, I can not imagine why they don't issue separate license for CC and OC.

[sherlock7]

jed,
You stated that in your opinion, " open carry is about the stupidest thing you have seen".
Do you honestly believe that!
Pretty strong statement. I can understand that a lot of us will not open carry most of the time but would you not agree that it will be nice to have that option.
My opinion only.

USMC

Semper FI

[jed]

jed,
You stated that in your opinion, " open carry is about the stupidest thing you have seen".
Do you honestly believe that!
Pretty strong statement. I can understand that a lot of us will not open carry most of the time but would you not agree that it will be nice to have that option.
My opinion only.

USMC

Semper FI

Yes it is a pretty strong statement and it's only my opinion. No, I don't agree that it is nice to have that option. Other than if it's not concealed very well and it peeks out. I don't let that happen so it's not a concern for me.

Can anyone give any legitimate reasons for OC? I can only come up with reasons not to OC.

[oljames3]

What is important is that we do carry. How we carry is a personal choice based on personal decisions. As most things in life, this choice is about the risks we are willing to manage and which benefits are most important.

My choice is based on my due diligence, risk analysis, and strategic/tactical review. I choose what works best for me and mine. My choice is as valid to me as anyone else's is to them.

While I can choose to carry openly outside of a school building, I will probably choose to conceal for the short time I might be there. I will carry openly were I can, conceal as the situation dictates, and disarm when I must.

[ScottDLS]

jed,
You stated that in your opinion, " open carry is about the stupidest thing you have seen".
Do you honestly believe that!
Pretty strong statement. I can understand that a lot of us will not open carry most of the time but would you not agree that it will be nice to have that option.
My opinion only.

USMC

Semper FI

Yes it is a pretty strong statement and it's only my opinion. No, I don't agree that it is nice to have that option. Other than if it's not concealed very well and it peeks out. I don't let that happen so it's not a concern for me.

Can anyone give any legitimate reasons for OC? I can only come up with reasons not to OC.

Why do the police open carry? Why do security guards open carry? Oh that's right...they're a special case, more important than us mere citizens. Why do people want to skulk around hiding their weapons from view? It used to be the case that the concealed carrier was the shady character looked down on as someone with something to hide and requiring a permit. Open carry is and has been legal in a large number of states.

[jed]

OK, so my opinion is in the minority. What are you all going to say when someone of questionable looking dress ask you why are you wearing a gun? Someone with a similar attitude as the mayor's recent comments. Do you all not think OC will be confrontational?

[oljames3]

Do you all not think OC will be confrontational?

This is getting way off topic, so this is my last response. Open carry is not confrontational, people are. I have carried openly in AZ, CO, NM, and OK without incident or confrontation. I am prepared to do the same in Texas.

[ScottDLS]

OK, so my opinion is in the minority. What are you all going to say when someone of questionable looking dress ask you why are you wearing a gun? Someone with a similar attitude as the mayor's recent comments. Do you all not think OC will be confrontational?

I'll ask them why their dressed like they are...