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The Annoyed Man wrote:In any case, I contacted my friend yesterday, and he told me he had already shipped all but one of his standard capacity magazines back to Texas (where he's from) for storage except one, which he is prepared to turn in for destruction if necessary.

Ruark wrote:

Solaris wrote:California was once one of the coolest states in the union. In less than 50 years, it is one of the worst.

Yes. I lived in CA about 60 years ago when I was a kid, not too far from Yosemite, and we still travel out there every few years. It used to be such a magical place, with jaw-dropping natural beauty, from Death Valley to Sequoia. I remember being in high school and all the "sunny summer" California music from the Beach Boys, et. al. Now you can't even burn wood in your fireplace (in fact, builders are not allowed to build houses with fireplaces), and neighbors can call in reports when they see smoke coming out of a chimney, which will bring local enforcers out with a $500+ ticket.

Now there are not only these restrictive laws against self-protection, but the whole state is overrun with gang violence, in some towns so bad people don't even leave their homes after dark. I remember stopping at a roadside park near Sacramento one time. It looked nice, but we got in there and everything was plastered with MS-13 graffiti. And of course, its economic problems are legendary. Sad for a place called "The Golden State," which it once was.

C-dub wrote:

JALLEN wrote:That is certainly a novel, and imaginative, explanation.

In 40 years as a lawyer, in CA by coincidence, I never once ran across a theory that a "sale" could be only of serialized merchandise, or traceable transactions.

I am informed that Californians sell all sorts of goods, or think they do, maybe even including South American agricultural imports in what they hope are untraceable transactions. A man in my former neighborhood was apparently a large scale importer and seller of these unserialized, untraceable products and is in jail still.

Oh, I could certainly be wrong. I was only theorizing that the prohibition on sales was a commercial thing, but not because of the lack of serial numbers. That part of my thinking was separate in the application because there would no way for any authority to track any particular magazine due to the lack of a serial number.

JALLEN wrote:

C-dub wrote:

JALLEN wrote:That is certainly a novel, and imaginative, explanation.

In 40 years as a lawyer, in CA by coincidence, I never once ran across a theory that a "sale" could be only of serialized merchandise, or traceable transactions.

I am informed that Californians sell all sorts of goods, or think they do, maybe even including South American agricultural imports in what they hope are untraceable transactions. A man in my former neighborhood was apparently a large scale importer and seller of these unserialized, untraceable products and is in jail still.

Oh, I could certainly be wrong. I was only theorizing that the prohibition on sales was a commercial thing, but not because of the lack of serial numbers. That part of my thinking was separate in the application because there would no way for any authority to track any particular magazine due to the lack of a serial number.

These guys are serious about this stuff. There have been a number of firearms related criminal cases where the DOJ expert witnesses turn out to be ignorant buffoons, trying to justify charges that never should have been brought in the first place.

They believe this stops Julio from selling to Jose in the barrio, but they don't realize that Julio and Jose and the rest of the gang bangers don't give a flying flip about their stupid rules, or getting caught.