Liberty wrote:parabelum wrote:Caliber wrote:I understand your point. But, "speech" can't kill anyone.
Tell that to families of those gassed in Nazi Germany. It all begun with "speech".
Anywho. You're on wrong end of U.S. Constitution. Re-read the 2A. Doesn't say "...with proper required training...".
Shall not be infringed! Not by you and not by these political maggots dressed up as cops.
The reference in the 2nd amendment to "a well regulated militia" is about training. At least to me it does, I think while it is claims that we have a right to arm ourselves there is a suggestion that we should be trained and prepared to use them. While I won't suggest that the 2nd amendment demands that we all need CHLs and training. I think that the militia reference suggests that we should not only be armed but well trained.
Keep in mind that the definition of "well regulated" was common during the time that Constitution was written, and beyond, with a meaning which was nowhere that of what is perceived to mean today.
"Well regulated" was a term commonly used to describe a proper working order of something. "Well regulated clock" would have been a term to describe a clock functioning properly.
Often, if one called out government official out for openly being caught up in a lie, that person would have been regarded as "well regulated", or in "proper working order", or not a leftist maggot
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English is not my first language but I did learn few things, here and there, over time. Mainly reading books
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Now, the militia part. Clearly this was not meant to imply members of armed forces solely and exclusively, as that would imply that only military is allowed to carry guns. So...
As Alexander Hamilton points out in Federalist 29:
"The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, nor a week nor even a month, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry and of the other classes of the citizens to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the
character of a well regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people and a serious public inconvenience and loss. "
It appears that Hamilton saw well-regulated militia as a state of readiness acquired through training.
If I train on my farm am I not prepared? What gives any entity the proper
right to rule over my
Right, granted to me by the Constitution, to define whether I am trained or not?
The rub is there are one offs who don't train and/or don't know how to use their weapon properly. I get it. However, my freedom to be free includes my freedom to be free from them, period.
If you are not training (proverbial "you"), why then shall my Right be usurped?
Esoteric, I know.
Summary,
"Well regulated" implies properly functioning person in this context, in other words not a mental case.
"Milita" implies properly trained and in a state of readiness. Doesn't prescribe that government bureaucracy decides what is "properly trained and in a state of readiness". It isn't in the Constitution. Doesn't exist.
Some States recognize the rather obtuse argument I wrote above, hence Constitutional Carry in those States.
To argue and support otherwise is to allow leftist judges to further defile our Constitution by creating all these carve outs, clauses, the "you qualify if you do xyz's" etc. all while little by little, the walls of the original Constitutional intent are breached more and more.
My opinion, is that 2A was an imperative component of defense of a Nation in the event where we as a Nation are overtaken by foreign body. In a case where military and/or police have been defeated or severely degraded, we, the free Citizens of this Nation, stand as last defense, and our Right to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
Again, my simpleton opinion.
