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Middle Age Russ wrote:I have a multitude of questions -- not about hardware used or tactics, but about the things that ultimately lead one human being to prey on others.

Middle Age Russ wrote:May God grant his peace and understanding to all affected by this and other such seemingly-senseless violent crimes.

flechero wrote:I agree with the cultural problems, and that’s obviously much more difficult to address.

Why can’t Republicans introduce a bill that would fund the salaries of armed officers in every school in America. The cost of this should be minimal compared to the impact of the tax cuts recently passed. It is time for action it is time for conservatives to step up and actually put forth something to help protect our children.

That would defeat the arguments from most of the left and still provide an extra measure of security and safety of children… This would truly be for the children and would not push any “conservative “agendas of allowing teachers or civilians armed in the schools.

It won’t prevent all of the tragedies and all of the shootings but it would certainly help to minimize the number of incidents and the carnage that takes place at an incident.

WTR wrote:I don't think we need government involvement either. While even one student death is tragic, since 2012 there has been 239 school shootings out of approx. 128,000 schools, There has benn 438 injuries out of which 138 were fatal. This out of approx. 51 million students.

In 2013, the Texas Legislature passed SB 1857, entitled “The Texas School Safety Training Act.” This bill established a process by which license to carry (LTC) instructors can provide a state certified training program for school districts and school employees who wish to have employees with LTCs carry handguns on campus.

In 2017, DPS began offering an instructor certification course to a limited number of License To Carry instructors. KR Training has 3 instructors certified to offer the School Safety course: Karl Rehn, Paul Martin and Tina Maldonado.

In rural Texas counties, law enforcement response times can be as much as 30 minutes or longer. And that’s for the first law enforcement officer to arrive on scene. For schools in remote parts of the state, the teachers, administrators and students are the first responders for their school. They will have to fend for themselves, providing their own security and first aid until help arrives.

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

flechero wrote:I agree with the cultural problems, and that’s obviously much more difficult to address.

Why can’t Republicans introduce a bill that would fund the salaries of armed officers in every school in America. The cost of this should be minimal compared to the impact of the tax cuts recently passed. It is time for action it is time for conservatives to step up and actually put forth something to help protect our children.

That would defeat the arguments from most of the left and still provide an extra measure of security and safety of children… This would truly be for the children and would not push any “conservative “agendas of allowing teachers or civilians armed in the schools.

It won’t prevent all of the tragedies and all of the shootings but it would certainly help to minimize the number of incidents and the carnage that takes place at an incident.

There were two armed Sheriffs deputies at this school in Florida. It's going to take a lot more than 1 or 2 people. Offer a salary supplement to teachers who get certified as part of a security detail. That's a better option, IMHO.

oljames3 wrote: I took the course at KR Training in December, 2017, and have my certificate. In addition to the other things I learned in the 18 hour course, I have shown I can achieve over 90% on the Texas LTC course of fire, pass the DPS Shooting Under Duress exercise, and pass the shooting course for a major Texas city police department.

This training seems applicable to businesses and churches, as well as school districts.

Karl Rehn is presenting the class again March 12-13 in Conroe, Texas. https://www.saddleriverrange.com/traini ... -training/

In 2013, the Texas Legislature passed SB 1857, entitled “The Texas School Safety Training Act.” This bill established a process by which license to carry (LTC) instructors can provide a state certified training program for school districts and school employees who wish to have employees with LTCs carry handguns on campus.

In 2017, DPS began offering an instructor certification course to a limited number of License To Carry instructors. KR Training has 3 instructors certified to offer the School Safety course: Karl Rehn, Paul Martin and Tina Maldonado.

“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

― Jeff Cooper, Art of the Rifle

MechAg94 wrote:From what I have heard about most of those mass shooters, they generally stop as soon as they meet armed resistance (or unarmed sometimes). Many times one armed person firing back in enough. They just need to be in the right place to do it. How many armed people you need to insure someone is there when needed is an open question.

Soccerdad1995 wrote:

MechAg94 wrote:From what I have heard about most of those mass shooters, they generally stop as soon as they meet armed resistance (or unarmed sometimes). Many times one armed person firing back in enough. They just need to be in the right place to do it. How many armed people you need to insure someone is there when needed is an open question.

My kids attend Seven Lakes High School in Katy, which is a very physically large school. Thinking about that location, I would say that 5 or so security personnel, properly positioned, could get in range of a shooter within a couple minutes of the first shots being fired. In addition to a stipend / supplement for willing teachers, maybe also allow parents to get certified and volunteer their time. The elementary schools in my area have something called DOGS (Dads Of Great Students), where dad's volunteer to help with school drop off, and other tasks. And we can easily muster more than 5 volunteers at a time for an elementary school which has a fraction of the students / parents compared to a high school.

Now if you are asking about how many would be needed to insure that no shooter ever gets even one shot off? Well that would be a lot more. But any progress in the direction of fewer casualties is good, IMHO.

oljames3 wrote:I took the course at KR Training in December, 2017, and have my certificate. In addition to the other things I learned in the 18 hour course, I have shown I can achieve over 90% on the Texas LTC course of fire, pass the DPS Shooting Under Duress exercise, and pass the shooting course for a major Texas city police department.

This training seems applicable to businesses and churches, as well as school districts.

Karl Rehn is presenting the class again March 12-13 in Conroe, Texas. https://www.saddleriverrange.com/traini ... -training/