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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:33 pm
by Jeremae
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs? I think I'm going to vote for calling them "assault rifles in sheeple's clothing."
I thought the accepted term was EBR (Evil Black Rifles)

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:28 pm
by KBCraig
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs? I think I'm going to vote for calling them "assault rifles in sheeple's clothing."
"Rifle" works just fine. No need for extra syllables.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:12 pm
by Liberty
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs? I think I'm going to vote for calling them "assault rifles in sheeple's clothing."
assault rifle wannbee?

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:07 am
by Xander
KBCraig wrote:
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs? I think I'm going to vote for calling them "assault rifles in sheeple's clothing."
"Rifle" works just fine. No need for extra syllables.
Yeah...I was just teasing. I knew that post needed an emoticon. :grin:

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:06 am
by gmckinl
Glad someone finally posted about the assault rifle reference. If anyone cares, here is the published definition from the NRA ILA Firearms Glossary...

ASSAULT RIFLE
By U.S. Army definition, a selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power. If applied to any semi-automatic firearm regardless of its cosmetic similarity to a true assault rifle, the term is incorrect.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:56 am
by 5111
I am well aware of the complaint that many have about the nomenclature, however I posted it that way because the sign on the AR in the Arlington store says "Must Be 21 to Purchase Assault Rifles" (which is a completely different topic).

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:43 am
by rspeir
5111 wrote:I am well aware of the complaint that many have about the nomenclature, however I posted it that way because the sign on the AR in the Arlington store says "Must Be 21 to Purchase Assault Rifles" (which is a completely different topic).
I can't think of anything that would prohibit them from being more restrictive than federal law. I wonder what the reason would be that they would give.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:49 pm
by Liberty
gmckinl wrote:Glad someone finally posted about the assault rifle reference. If anyone cares, here is the published definition from the NRA ILA Firearms Glossary...

ASSAULT RIFLE
By U.S. Army definition, a selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power. If applied to any semi-automatic firearm regardless of its cosmetic similarity to a true assault rifle, the term is incorrect.
I never trusted the Army to define anything, because the Army is sometimes pretty silly in its definitions. After all the first thing a recruit is taught is that there is the right way, and then there is the Army way. The Army would insist that what most rational folks would believe is an assault weapon isn't even a gun. In fact they tried to convince the lot of us in Basic training that that certain anatomical human organs were to be refered to as guns, but not an M16 I'm sure our fellow veterans here would agree.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:21 pm
by mr surveyor
"this one's for fightin', and this one's for fun"


just guessing :cool:

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:39 am
by 5111
rspeir wrote:
5111 wrote:I am well aware of the complaint that many have about the nomenclature, however I posted it that way because the sign on the AR in the Arlington store says "Must Be 21 to Purchase Assault Rifles" (which is a completely different topic).
I can't think of anything that would prohibit them from being more restrictive than federal law. I wonder what the reason would be that they would give.
Just the Academy being stupid. I give them grief about it every time I am in the store. They claim that it is a company policy, but I have only ever seen the sign in the Arlington store.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:17 am
by rkhal
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs? I think I'm going to vote for calling them "assault rifles in sheeple's clothing."
How about "Gun Control weinie agitators?" or Agitator Weapons for short?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:27 am
by Rabbit
Just the Academy being stupid. I give them grief about it every time I am in the store. They claim that it is a company policy, but I have only ever seen the sign in the Arlington store.
Yep just the store. A buddy of mine bought a Bushmaster AR15 from Academy in Austin a couple of months ago and he is only 20. They didnt even batt an eye lid about it.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:02 pm
by Skiprr
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs?
I thought we'd decided--maybe last year--that they were "Sport Utility Rifles." :grin:

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:50 pm
by Liberty
Skiprr wrote:
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs?
I thought we'd decided--maybe last year--that they were "Sport Utility Rifles." :grin:
I Like calling them "guns" or perhaps rifles. Differentiating them from any other gun seems to invite attention into why they are scarier than any other gun. Funny how in my experience the most dangerous guns happened to be shotguns and revolvers. Having seen the results of some that had been misused or poor condition.

Then again while I might think that calling attention to these these type of guns by using special nomenclature, I have yet to understand the venom caused by calling a revolver, a pistol or a magazine, a clip. Words have meanings, I guess .. there are always implications in any terminology that some people see different than the others.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:53 pm
by Xander
Skiprr wrote:
Xander wrote:So I wonder...How would one *most* accurately describe rifles such as, say, semi-auto only ARs or AKs?
I thought we'd decided--maybe last year--that they were "Sport Utility Rifles." :grin:
LOL! That was before my time on the forum, but that's great! :grin: