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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:55 pm
by flintknapper
longtooth wrote:quidni wrote:bauerdj wrote:Somewhat to my suprise I can not reach my weapon in its usual carry location with my weak side hand. It shouldn/t really be that much of a suprise to me as my range of motion is limited by arthritis. Extra circumference in the waist area does not help either. I may need to rethink carry position especially since I think current position is contributing to hp pain. I may expierament with cross draw.
Dave B.
Cross draw does have a bit of an advantage that way - I haven't timed myself, but I can actually do the "cavalry draw" with my weak hand and have the muzzle on target a bit faster than I can right-handed. My favorite holster is a right-handed pancake holster with only a slight cant, worn "backwards" on my left hip.
Is this the rig you got about a yr ago?
If so I was impressed when you posted the Pics.
Gents this little lady hides a big gun w/ a very light cover garment.
I remember that also.
It seems she was taking a bit of flak concerning the cross-draw mode... until she posted the photo. Then it became apparent she was on to something.
For her needs, it looked perfect to me.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:57 pm
by longtooth
Yes sir. If she gets on again tonight I would like to see them again if she still has them.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:26 pm
by quidni
longtooth wrote:quidni wrote:Cross draw does have a bit of an advantage that way - I haven't timed myself, but I can actually do the "cavalry draw" with my weak hand and have the muzzle on target a bit faster than I can right-handed. My favorite holster is a right-handed pancake holster with only a slight cant, worn "backwards" on my left hip.
Is this the rig you got about a yr ago?
If so I was impressed when you posted the Pics.
Gents this little lady hides a big gun w/ a very light cover garment.
Yes... and no.

I have a couple different sizes of holster from that mfr now. While I still really like the 9mm CZ, my primary carry now is a Colt Defender in .45 (courtesy of my wonderful son). It's just a bit lighter than the CZ, and more comfortable to wear for long periods of time.
Every once in a while, though, I do have the urge to strap on a full-size 1911 - just to remind myself that yes, I can conceal it!
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:31 pm
by longtooth
You have a good son. I often remember the call from you 2. Would have been about a yr ago yesterday. Probably about this time of evening, maybe a little earlier. Sure would like to meet him.
Thank yall again for your care & prayers at that time.
LT

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:14 pm
by Xander
I tried this when I got home from work today. Initially, I couldn't get a good grip on my gun (three o'clock-ish with a forward cant) with my weak hand at all. However, I wear a Comp-Tac Pro Undercover which is fairly easy to manipulate inside my waistband, and I found that if I reach behind my back and get a good grip on the butt on the handle, a hard yank will reverse the cant to the rear and set the handle right into my weak hand for what almost ends up being a backwards cross-draw. Once I figured that out, I went from not being able to get my gun out safely at *all* with my weak-hand, to consistent three to four second draws that felt solid and secure. I was pleasantly surprised.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:58 am
by flintknapper
Xander wrote:I tried this when I got home from work today. Initially, I couldn't get a good grip on my gun (three o'clock-ish with a forward cant) with my weak hand at all. However, I wear a Comp-Tac Pro Undercover which is fairly easy to manipulate inside my waistband, and I found that if I reach behind my back and get a good grip on the butt on the handle, a hard yank will reverse the cant to the rear and set the handle right into my weak hand for what almost ends up being a backwards cross-draw. Once I figured that out, I went from not being able to get my gun out safely at *all* with my weak-hand, to consistent three to four second draws that felt solid and secure. I was pleasantly surprised.
Excellent!
The basis for this post was to bring awareness to what might be a potential problem for some people.
Seems you have figured out a way to overcome it. Proud of ya!
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:24 am
by longtooth
Another "GOOD JOB" from me too.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:57 am
by jbirds1210
Thank you Flint for a wonderful post!
I have worked a bit with my methods of carry to see if I can reach the gun with my weak hand and found that it is very difficult to impossible for me in a reasonable amount of time.
I do have a spare magazine and knife on the left side.....I would at least have something to pack my fist with.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:02 pm
by Skiprr
jbirds1210 wrote:Thank you Flint for a wonderful post!
Just wait until he follows it up with scenarios about weak-hand-only reloading, slide manipulation, and stoppage reduction.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:11 pm
by longtooth
I bet he can do it. I practice one hand reload & occasionally one hand slide work. Strong & weak. I think that is what started my front site problem on the Springer. Loosened it up.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:39 pm
by flintknapper
longtooth wrote:I bet he can do it. I practice one hand reload & occasionally one hand slide work. Strong & weak. I think that is what started my front site problem on the Springer. Loosened it up.
LT,
Next time we get together to shoot, if you look in my "traveling box" you will notice three tubes (5" I.D. about 8" long with a wooden dowel inserted cross wise). These are marked "Crippled Hand".
You insert your strong side hand into the tube and grasp the dowel that is mounted about 2" up from the bottom. This prevents you from using your hand or wrist during weak hand practice. It seems too many people flounder with NOT using their strong hand when I put a little pressure on them (timer, yelling, etc) so I made these to cure that.
There are many, many...methods for reloading, dropping the slide, clearing stoppages and such when using the weak hand (or only having one hand to work with). Much depends on the type weapon you have and its particular features. Revolver shooters suffer mightily during these drills.
Anyway, thats a whole 'nother topic. But yes, we could do that too.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:50 pm
by longtooth
Told ya.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:07 pm
by stevie_d_64
I'm still turnin' circles here...

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:15 pm
by longtooth
For sure Flint, I cant wait. When we are out w/ someone else seem like they always get the attention. That is OK. I would like a time w/ you when I could just play plumb dumb & see how much I could learn learn.
We dont get enough time together friend.
LT
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:12 pm
by flintknapper
stevie_d_64 wrote:I'm still turnin' circles here...

