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Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:04 pm
by philip964
Beiruty wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:31 pm It looks like the movie outbreak. However, it is more serious if the pathogen is a let loose from secret military lab.
Movie Outbreak had a magic liquid they gave everyone who was sick and they all got better.

What I fear will happen, since it’s not as deadly as once thought, it becomes a test of healthcare systems around the world. Countries with poor healthcare will not be able to stop it. For example someone from China flys to a place with marginal healthcare and it spreads to the general population. Right now all we hear about is people flying to locations with excellent healthcare. I’m sure right now infected people are also traveling to places that are not prepared.

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:09 pm
by philip964
https://youtu.be/h0o1_JcKZeQ

Speedy hospital construction in China

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:13 pm
by RoyGBiv
At the moment, this virus is running at 4% mortality rate.
SARS was 10%

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how ... -sars-mers

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:53 pm
by TreyHouston
RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:13 pm At the moment, this virus is running at 4% mortality rate.
SARS was 10%

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how ... -sars-mers
You sure have a lot of faith in the Chinese government telling the truth don’t you! :lol:

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:07 pm
by philip964
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/ ... ob-market/

Economic Black Swan event.

https://news.yahoo.com/report-indicates ... 35402.html

May not have started in the “wet market”.

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:11 am
by Beiruty
philip964 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:07 pm https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/ ... ob-market/

Economic Black Swan event.

https://news.yahoo.com/report-indicates ... 35402.html

May not have started in the “wet market”.
The virus is a military-grade pathogen. It is let loose from a top secret bio-warefare labs. When the President of China is concerned, it means a big cat is gone. (out of control)

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:22 am
by 03Lightningrocks
Beiruty wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:11 am
philip964 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:07 pm https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/ ... ob-market/

Economic Black Swan event.

https://news.yahoo.com/report-indicates ... 35402.html

May not have started in the “wet market”.
The virus is a military-grade pathogen. It is let loose from a top secret bio-warefare labs. When the President of China is concerned, it means a big cat is gone. (out of control)
:eek6 :confused5

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:50 am
by jason812
Beiruty wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:11 am
philip964 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:07 pm https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/ ... ob-market/

Economic Black Swan event.

https://news.yahoo.com/report-indicates ... 35402.html

May not have started in the “wet market”.
The virus is a military-grade pathogen. It is let loose from a top secret bio-warefare labs. When the President of China is concerned, it means a big cat is gone. (out of control)
It escaped or was let loose. I find it hard to believe that this came from eating bats when there is a class 4 biological facility just miles down the road from the supposed area where this started. How many people are in China? 1.5 billion give or take a few. So out of 1.5 billion you quarantine 60 million after less than 1000 got sick? What I do know is you can trust the Chinese government less than our own government so I don't believe a thing the China media is telling the world. At least the people of Hong Kong are not protesting any more (that we know of).

Now we learn it can spread before there are symptoms but the government is putting in screening stations at airports to screen people for symptoms. Yeah that is the answer. The truth is we won't know how bad this is yet for another week or so. It will take that long for others infected throughout the world to start showing symptoms to see if it has been spreading. It will spread in China and other 3rd world countries more than here. If you have ever been over there, every city seems like New York city. A lot of people. A lot of people who do not have the personal hygiene we do and a lot of people who do not comprehend personal space. The airports and train stations are like being in the middle of a crowd at a rock concert. Maybe not that bad but they stand a lot closer than we (or maybe its just me) are accustomed to. The Chinese cannot even drink their own tap water. Or at least the people I was with over there did not drink tap water. Combine that with a highly mobile society, and things like this can spread rapidly. The latest report is 5 million people went out of Wuhan before the quarantine went into affect. If it's going to spread, we will find out.

If it were let loose on purpose, there are a few reasons I can think of for the Chinese government to do so. They could be trying to kill our economy (it would kill their's too), population control to get rid of older people, testing to see how good this works, or to get the people in Hong Kong under control without having to send in the military. I know every one of these also hurts the Chinese government but they really do not care because for Communist, the ends justify the means. We will probably never know truly how this started or the number of people it kills in China.

My Captain Trips comments from "The Stand" were partially sarcastic. My faith in our government being truthful is also very low.

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:05 pm
by philip964
https://news.yahoo.com/foreigners-prepa ... 54869.html

First human to human infection outside of China has occurred.

China fighting a demon virus says Xi.

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:26 pm
by Redneck_Buddha
Thanks, China!

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:04 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
We should be shutting down flights coming in from China. Waiting until it is worse makes no sense at all.Hopefully they are isolating the "American" citizens they are flying out of China.

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:40 pm
by Grayling813
Rob72 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:23 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:04 pm We should be shutting down flights coming in from China. Waiting until it is worse makes no sense at all.Hopefully they are isolating the "American" citizens they are flying out of China.
That is no longer a possibility. The Progressivist, "Global Economy," has made it impossible to effectively seal our borders- we produce NONE of the essentials for our infrastructure, most notably, medical infrastructure. Ventillator circuits (required to run vents) come from Mexico, along with most of the illegals from South America, and many from China. This is just a small item in the literal mountain of goods produced overseas. If their plants shut down, forget the economy, our healthcare comes to a halt.
And I read somewhere that a lot of common US pharmaceuticals are made in China.

Re: Corona Virus (2019-nCoV) from China: Its going to be bad.

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:13 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Grayling813 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:40 pm
Rob72 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:23 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:04 pm We should be shutting down flights coming in from China. Waiting until it is worse makes no sense at all.Hopefully they are isolating the "American" citizens they are flying out of China.
That is no longer a possibility. The Progressivist, "Global Economy," has made it impossible to effectively seal our borders- we produce NONE of the essentials for our infrastructure, most notably, medical infrastructure. Ventillator circuits (required to run vents) come from Mexico, along with most of the illegals from South America, and many from China. This is just a small item in the literal mountain of goods produced overseas. If their plants shut down, forget the economy, our healthcare comes to a halt.
And I read somewhere that a lot of common US pharmaceuticals are made in China.
There is one drug produced in China that we could all do without. Fentanyl