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philip964 wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/ny ... &referrer=

Doctor in New York City tests positive for Ebola.

Went bowling yesterday.

According to a website I can't vouch for, Ebola patients are disappearing from hospitals. They come in with Ebola symptoms, but arnt there the next day when hospital staff ask about a patient who came in the night before. Seems far fetched that the CDC could keep this under wraps.

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sjfcontrol wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/ny ... &referrer=

Doctor in New York City tests positive for Ebola.

Went bowling yesterday.

According to a website I can't vouch for, Ebola patients are disappearing from hospitals. They come in with Ebola symptoms, but arnt there the next day when hospital staff ask about a patient who came in the night before. Seems far fetched that the CDC could keep this under wraps.

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I know the website of which you speak. The claim may be balderdash or come from paranoia, but I fully expect a government that continually lies and obfuscates to lie about and cover up what is really happening with Ebola....especially before the November elections. One could make the case for incompetence over deception but I think it's both a lying government and an incompetent government. A government that is probably more competent at lying than at anything else it does (not counting actual military action...the military being the only part of government left with a vestige of integrity and competence).

VMI77 wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/ny ... &referrer=

Doctor in New York City tests positive for Ebola.

Went bowling yesterday.

According to a website I can't vouch for, Ebola patients are disappearing from hospitals. They come in with Ebola symptoms, but arnt there the next day when hospital staff ask about a patient who came in the night before. Seems far fetched that the CDC could keep this under wraps.

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=74832" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I know the website of which you speak. The claim may be balderdash or come from paranoia, but I fully expect a government that continually lies and obfuscates to lie about and cover up what is really happening with Ebola....especially before the November elections. One could make the case for incompetence over deception but I think it's both a lying government and an incompetent government. A government that is probably more competent at lying than at anything else it does (not counting actual military action...the military being the only part of government left with a vestige of integrity and competence).

Nothing this administration does surprises me.

I'm beginning to wonder (fear) the plan might be to allow a national pandemic so Obama can declare a national emergency and establish martial law, thereby effectively suspending the constitution.

I'm not normally a "tin hat" guy, but...

Pawpaw wrote:I'm beginning to wonder (fear) the plan might be to allow a national pandemic so Obama can declare a national emergency and establish martial law, thereby effectively suspending the constitution.

I'm not normally a "tin hat" guy, but...

Much as they might like to I don't think they dare try it.

VMI77 wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:I'm beginning to wonder (fear) the plan might be to allow a national pandemic so Obama can declare a national emergency and establish martial law, thereby effectively suspending the constitution.

I'm not normally a "tin hat" guy, but...

Much as they might like to I don't think they dare try it.

The list of things you could say that about is a lot shorter than it was 6 years ago.

Pawpaw wrote:I'm beginning to wonder (fear) the plan might be to allow a national pandemic so Obama can declare a national emergency and establish martial law, thereby effectively suspending the constitution.

I'm not normally a "tin hat" guy, but...

I mentioned the same to some friends after Thomas Eric Duncan got here to North Texas. They initially thought I was off my rocker. They're both kinda freaked out now that I might have been right.

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A general update on Ebola in the US. Yahoo a very liberal news source, seems to have figured out that conservatives will click on a story if it says Obama calls defensive Nurse.

But the story has no information on who he called, the nurse in Maine who is being a jerk, or the second nurse from Dallas who was just released. Of course my suspicion is he called his supporter in Maine.

In Ebola in Africa news, the Liberia situation is better,

but worse in Serria Leone.

In a first study on this Ebola, from 44 patients (originally 104 patients but some notes had to be distroyed because of Ebola contamination ( doctors probably got sick))

74 percent die. Most survivors are under 45. Not much bleeding but diarrhea a big problem, thus introvienous fluids important. When you are admitted for treatment important, late admitted always die.

I wonder if it is just a matter of hydration and electrolyte support. Perhaps the loss rate could be improved by something very simple. Not a doctor, but if they are not bleeding out but are rather dehydrating that is something that can be helped.

mamabearCali wrote:I wonder if it is just a matter of hydration and electrolyte support. Perhaps the loss rate could be improved by something very simple. Not a doctor, but if they are not bleeding out but are rather dehydrating that is something that can be helped.

They have to be able to absorb it at a higher rate than it's coming out. It's coming out fast in many cases.

philip964 wrote:74 percent die. Most survivors are under 45. Not much bleeding but diarrhea a big problem, thus introvienous fluids important. When you are admitted for treatment important, late admitted always die.

IIRC, someone was trying to use a breakdown by country to show that while some countries have an insanely high death rate, others are relatively low.

Conveniently, the high death rates coincided with high infection rates; the countries with big problems are the ones where the treatment is happening in dirt-floored tents on WWII surplus cots.

Possibly more importantly, the countries with high fatality rates are the ones where it's basically, "well, you're coughing and have a fever, so we're tossing you in the cramped quarantine area with people who are spewing Ebola laden goo out both ends and the staff can't change gloves between patients because they're taped into their suits." Makes me wonder how many just had something relatively tame like Lassa fever or a simple rhinovirus until they got "helped."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 1-10-25-24" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prediction of 150 cases in the US by years end.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Lond ... ail-Prague" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prague Ebola blackmail and Spanish intercept terrorist chatter about using Ebola as a weapon.

Aw heck, let's put on the tinfoil hats, stop looking at what they're talking about and look at what they've stopped talking about: EV-D68.

Nothing in major media since 10-5, but 19 confirmed in Ohio last week. Over 1,100 confirmed cases since August for a bug that had only turned up 26 times in the previous 30 years. Why the utter silence from the media when it's killed more people than have even thought they caught Ebola on US soil?

KD5NRH wrote:Aw heck, let's put on the tinfoil hats, stop looking at what they're talking about and look at what they've stopped talking about: EV-D68.

Nothing in major media since 10-5, but 19 confirmed in Ohio last week. Over 1,100 confirmed cases since August for a bug that had only turned up 26 times in the previous 30 years. Why the utter silence from the media when it's killed more people than have even thought they caught Ebola on US soil?

The media is quiet on this because the disease experts have traced the disease origins to the states where the most illegals have been housed. This facts will torpedo the planned amnesty after the election. Once the election os over president useless will do his EO amnesty thing. He has nothing to lose and no open will do anything to stop it.