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Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:56 pm
by joe817
Good post fizteach! Thanks for sharing!
The inconsistencies are incredible. Either there is GROSS miscommunication on the security company disseminating their desires to the front gates(which would normally be done at a staff meeting for ALL staff gate people to hear), or SOME security supervisor type(s) are going to each gate(with some gates being missed), and giving instructions to the person on hand at the time, and all front gate people are not getting the trickle down instructions from the "top". To me it's certainly not a "corporate policy" type instruction that's being given.....only piecemeal. Which means it's not an official policy at all.....only the desires of a few people in supervisory positions. Which makes that an even more dangerous(if that's the proper word) proposition on the security of the information that we volunteer to those few that "require" it.
On a different note, I listened in its entirety( except for the FIRST 48 minutes, starting at 4pm) to the Wells Report on KLIF, 570AM., and heard nothing about the State Fair inquisition on CHL holders. Did I miss something?
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:02 am
by THE ENGINEER
My wife and I had no issues tonight at all as there was
NO SECURITY! We paid the $10 to park at the Haskell entrance. The whole way I was anticipating having to argue against having any data being recorded and how I was gonna request my $10 parking fee back if we left. My wife and I had already discussed that if any info other than my name, which is a common name, was requested to be recorded we would leave and have fun somewhere else. To our surprise there was no security check. We bought our tickets and walked right in. I thought this was way too easy and that there would be a checkpoint further in, but nothing. No wand, no security officers, nada! I have to say we had a very good time. Some would say that the lack of security is even more reason to carry a gun. I did not feel any less safe there than anywhere else. The fair does not bring out all of the thugs, and it is probably no more dangerous than any other public place. I hope others have a good experience as well.

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:04 am
by C-dub
THE ENGINEER wrote:My wife and I had no issues tonight at all as there was
NO SECURITY! We paid the $10 to park at the Haskell entrance. The whole way I was anticipating having to argue against having any data being recorded and how I was gonna request my $10 parking fee back if we left. My wife and I had already discussed that if any info other than my name, which is a common name, was requested to be recorded we would leave and have fun somewhere else. To our surprise there was no security check. We bought our tickets and walked right in. I thought this was way too easy and that there would be a checkpoint further in, but nothing. No wand, no security officers, nada! I have to say we had a very good time. Some would say that the lack of security is even more reason to carry a gun. I did not feel any less safe there than anywhere else. The fair does not bring out all of the thugs, and it is probably no more dangerous than any other public place. I hope others have a good experience as well.

Unbelievable! That's just amazing! What time did you go?
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:28 pm
by THE ENGINEER
C-dub wrote:THE ENGINEER wrote:My wife and I had no issues tonight at all as there was
NO SECURITY! We paid the $10 to park at the Haskell entrance. The whole way I was anticipating having to argue against having any data being recorded and how I was gonna request my $10 parking fee back if we left. My wife and I had already discussed that if any info other than my name, which is a common name, was requested to be recorded we would leave and have fun somewhere else. To our surprise there was no security check. We bought our tickets and walked right in. I thought this was way too easy and that there would be a checkpoint further in, but nothing. No wand, no security officers, nada! I have to say we had a very good time. Some would say that the lack of security is even more reason to carry a gun. I did not feel any less safe there than anywhere else. The fair does not bring out all of the thugs, and it is probably no more dangerous than any other public place. I hope others have a good experience as well.

Unbelievable! That's just amazing! What time did you go?
We went at about 7:30 at night. The only person there was a non-security lady at the turnstile that took our tickets.
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:35 pm
by C-dub
Well, that explains it. Since bad guys are afraid of the dark there's no reason to check for weapons that late.

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:37 pm
by joe817
C-dub wrote:Well, that explains it. Since bad guys are afraid of the dark there's no reason to check for weapons that late.


Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:45 pm
by AEA
More likely they are cutting back their useless security during the last days of the fair. No need to spend any more money for feel good appearances at this late date.
More excellent reasoning by the Management......

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:51 pm
by gemini
AEA wrote:More likely they are cutting back their useless security during the last days of the fair. No need to spend any more money for feel good appearances at this late date.
More excellent reasoning by the Management......


Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:07 pm
by texasag93
jimlongley wrote:I just noticed that my spell checker rendered the plural of "forum" as two words, which could lead to some confusion. Correcting.
for 'em?
Sorry to get off subject..
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:47 pm
by blue
Tx-OU weekend (Big Stadium full of people + fair) needs LESS security ????????????
-really is some kinda management there!
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It IS time for Vermont/Alaska rules in Texas!!!! (SERIOUSLY).
Blue
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:18 pm
by txbirddog
Just a "power" play. Trying to prove their importance. Maybe next time they will learn the rules.

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:26 pm
by gemini
txbirddog wrote:Just a "power" play. Trying to prove their importance. Maybe next time they will learn the rules.

???
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:36 pm
by Kythas
Went to the State Fair yesterday (Texas/OU weekend). I took the DART rail, which was a bad idea but that's another story.
There was security and everyone had wands, but nobody was using them. They were just waiving everyone through, though they were asking to look in the women's bags.
As a side note, there was a line to get out of the fair if you took DART and it took over an hour just to leave. I'm sure it's because the rail system was overloaded due to the game, as 98% of the people there were wearing either orange or red.
Lesson: Don't go to the fair during Texas/OU weekend.
Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:47 pm
by C-dub
Kythas wrote:
Lesson: Don't go to the fair during Texas/OU weekend.
Unless you want to sneak in an illegal weapon.

Re: A disappointing State Fair episode 10-1-09
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:55 pm
by mred
did gang night already happen or is it coming up?